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Gov. Gavin Newsom on ICE Raids, Donald Trump, and the Power of Immigrants in America

June 23, 2025
Governor Gavin Newsom joins the show to discuss the fear sparked by masked ICE agents, explains why immigrants are vital to California’s strength, and shares his thoughts on Donald Trump’s America.
Show transcript
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Familia, me too,
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we'd like to welcome California Governor Gavin Newsom to meet daily.
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It's good to be with you guys.
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Thanks for having me,
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Governor. It's such a privilege to have you.
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We've been looking forward to this for such a long time and
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we are really happy that you're showing up for us and our
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community, especially now.
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No, I, I,
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I can't even imagine all the emotions and how everybody's working and
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processing through this so I I appreciate the opportunity,
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particularly at this time to.
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To engage and have this conversation,
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Governor, the Trump administration claims ISE is targeting illegal criminals,
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yet we continue to see hardworking farm workers,
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restaurant workers, day laborers being detained.
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How can we ensure that undocumented immigrants in California are being protected
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and afforded due process?
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Well, we're doing everything in our power to do just that
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I called for a special session,
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which is just a fancy way of saying I called on the
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legislature to provide. More resources,
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more financial resources for legal aid to support our networks that exists
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our hubs up and down California to share information in real
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time and to provide a process to do just that to provide
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support for due process and to make sure that people that seek
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access to counsel get it.
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That said, this is an administration doesn't believe in due process
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People are quite literally disappearing.
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people that have been working here for decades and decades
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going to work at the same place are quite literally disappearing from
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the streets being pulled out of their cars.
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I met with a,
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a young child,,
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down in Oxnard, and I say young,
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he's 12 years old,
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the age of my kids,
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and, and he couldn't even look me in the eye.
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because he was so devastated every time he tried to
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talk,, tears pouring down his face because both his
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parents, his mother and his father,
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both going to work the same place for over 25 years,
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were gone. He had no brothers,
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no sisters,,
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no aunt and uncle.
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thank God he was getting support by the community.
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That's Donald Trump's America.
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That's what Donald Trump is doing his mom,
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no criminal record, less than 10%,
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less than 10%. Of the people that they picked up less
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than 10 have violent criminal backgrounds.
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This is about mass deportation.
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This is about terrorizing diverse communities and this needs to be called
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out. Forgive me for the intensity in response.
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I can't even imagine.
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And how many of your viewers are feeling if I'm feeling like
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this. Now we've seen countless videos of ICE agents in masks
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or unmarked vehicles creating this fear and panic in our immigrant communities
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What do you say to those who are afraid to leave
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their homes? Like it breaks your heart.
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People are literally not only not leaving their homes,
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not walking,,
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to work, not even going to work,
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but they're not even going to school.
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You know, was it just we just put out a report
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in the Central Valley in California,
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that we've had a 22% increase in absenteeism,
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it's near the end of the school year,
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but still people kids are not even going to school.
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They're not even showing up to their graduations.
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People are here lawfully.
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We have a million children in California,
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1 million children that have at least one immigrant parent,
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1 million.
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they're here legally,
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the overwhelming majority of them are here legally,
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and, and imagine the anxiety and terror they have,
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the stress that they're going through,
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these mixed status families.
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what's gonna happen to mom and dad or your uncle,
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your grandparent? How can they focus on school?
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How can they focus on living life and,
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and just feeling like they can go to a playground or a
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park?, we had an example and this is a
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friend of mine, Ryan,
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very one of closest friends,
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he had his babysitter.
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Who literally had to stay two nights with him and he had
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to pick up his babysitter's kids.
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She's here legally, but she was profiled in a park with
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his child taking care of his child.
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And she was so scared she went to his house because she
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didn't want to go back home and asked him to pick up
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her three children from school because she was so scared she was
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gonna be racially profiled and picked up by those people in masks
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in unmarked cars and disappeared.
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Look, this is,
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this is serious and,
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and it continues by to this hour.
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Down in Coachella yesterday,
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I mean right near Dodgers Stadium,
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just hours ago in Los Angeles,
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we're seeing it in fields all across California and increasingly across the
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country. You brought up the masks again.
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There's a California bill that proposes to unmask ICE agents.
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Do you believe that's a meaningful step towards accountability?
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Yeah, it's it's interesting.
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I, I, I'm not even making this up.
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Literally there was a bill that was.
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Just introduced there's over 2000 bills they just introduced that in reaction
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to everything going on,
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and it's actually going through legal counsel right now.
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The question is, can you legally require that they become unmasked
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but regardless of the merits,
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the demerits of that,
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I mean, why are they masked?
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What are you afraid of if they're doing your job,
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you lot, it's to increase stress.
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It's to increase anxiety.
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You said it masked men disproportionately men.
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In unmarked cars without identifying themselves or at least difficult to even
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identify from all of these multi-letter agencies that even if you're in
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the business of government you don't even understand what half of these
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agencies do and who they are,
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and you're being quite literally thrown in the back of
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a car whether you're a citizen or not and they'll figure it
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out later. That's not America that's what our founding fathers lived
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and died for. And so I get it.
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I, I get going after people that are criminals.
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I do. I understand dangerous and violent people.
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No one wants dangerous and violent people,
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but that's not what this is about.
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I'm really glad you brought up US citizens are being detained.
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I mean, we see the case of Adriana Martinez as reported
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yesterday. Yesterday by the Los Angeles Times,
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he was a US citizen that was detained.
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How can the state respond to these wrongful detentions and hold ICE
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accountable? Well they need to be held accountable.
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I mean they and it'd be nice if we had three branches
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of government, we lost one of them.
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Congress has totally disappeared.
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Speaker Johnson is completely rolled over,
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the most irrelevant and consequentially inconsequential speakers,
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consequential. Because he's not doing his job of oversight,
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in Congress,
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but without that we rely then on the courts to your question
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we rely on the court system.
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We rely on the laws of the land,
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the rule of law,
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we rely on the Constitution of the United States of America.
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We rely on those enduring principles that our founding fathers advanced 250
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years ago, and we pray.
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That the courts hold this democracy together now something that I don't
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understand is immigrants are so essential to both American and California economies
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like what kind of toll do you think these aggressive ICE operations
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are gonna have on all of us in the next weeks,
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days, months, and years?
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I'm so proud to be governor of California,
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4th largest economy on planet Earth,
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4th largest economy in the world,
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$4.1 trillion. You know why?
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It's because of immigrants.
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It's because people from all around the world want to come and
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live their lives out loud here in California,
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in the most diverse state in the world's most diverse democracy.
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27% of the state is foreign born,
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and you talk about a state of mind for people that are
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foreign born that come here for new beginnings,
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the entrepreneurial spirit. It's the reason Silicon Valley is Silicon Valley
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it's the reason we push out the boundaries of discovery and
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research and science, more Nobel laureates,
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more scientists, researchers,
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engineers than any other state in America are immigrants.
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It's not just though it is and it's a point of pride
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In our farms and ranches,
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it's not just in our restaurants it's not just in our hotels
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it's also at Wall Street it's in the boardrooms,
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some of the best and the brightest from around the world that's
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what makes this state great it's what's made America great,
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the life force I'm in Ronald Reagan's old office,
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former governor Reagan, not just president,
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his last speech in the Oval Office as President of the United
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States, Ronald Reagan,
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whose picture. His portrait is right above the resolute desk in
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Donald Trump's Oval Office,
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and there it is Ronald Reagan looking down on Donald Trump who
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said Reagan in his last speech,
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he talked about the life force of new Americans.
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He talked about Lady Liberty Liberty's torch.
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They were beautiful words.
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He recognized the essence of what makes America American and so I
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I'm just, I'm so.
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I'm so I'm so stunned how far we've fallen in that respect
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and so it's critical that we stand up in that void and
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we assert ourselves and we remind people of who we are and
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that we're all better off and we're all better off and that
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we celebrate we don't tolerate our diversity and we don't fall
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prey to the rhetoric,
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of this administration and we can't be complicit either in
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this moment. Meaning we can't just be silent that's what Donald
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Trump wants nor can we nor can we be violent ourselves if
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we're gonna protest, we do it peacefully.
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That's how you make things change that's how movements are created through
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peaceful protests,,
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but we've got to assert ourselves and we've got to push back
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and stand up. And speaking of standing up,
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I've, you know,
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the last couple weeks,
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the way you've been on social media fighting against Trump and some
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of the things that he's spreading,
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I mean. It's such a strange time with his like 2
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a.m. Truth social posts and you know TikTok and I mean I
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wanna commend your TikTok team it's fantastic.
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We've enjoyed it. But what do you think is like the
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most difficult or even strangest part of navigating social media in this
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new un like unprecedented time?
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I think that the difficulty is that we're in our filter bubble
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right? We're all in our own algorithms and so a
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lot of things you see other people don't see a lot of
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things I see other people don't see one thing I know Donald
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Trump never sees any of that.
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What he just sees is his own reflection.
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he sees it because of the propaganda network that is
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Fox News and by the way,
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that's not me saying that that's Tucker Carlson.
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I mean, come on,
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saying it. I mean,
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what more evidence do you need?
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they gin up fear and panic about immigration,
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and then they sell calm indifference around gun violence,
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around climate change, around all of these other issues.
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and they're,
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it's extraordinarily dangerous to our democracy,
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what they're perpetuating, and that's what Donald Trump sees that's a
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reflection of his performance and so he's deeply naive to what's happening
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out there. What I'm trying to do on social media,
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what I'm trying to do is I think I get in his
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skin a little bit under his skin,
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I think we,
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we punched a little above our weight and so I'm pushing hard
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because I want him to understand.
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What world where he's living in,
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he doesn't live in just the red parts of this country.
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This is the United States of America.
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Many parts, one body in the spirit of the Bible,
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many parts one body.
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He represents the United States of red states.
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I want a president who represents the United States of all of
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us, everything, our aspirations,
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our dreams, our visions that that that that sort of inspire
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us,, as,
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as active citizens of this country,
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and, and I want us to respect our farm workers and
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ag workers and our construction workers.
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I want us to respect people who have been here decades and
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decades that are putting food on the table that are actually building
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our homes that are taking care of our parents and our grandparents
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that are there for us when we get sick.
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And they are just trying to make,
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you know, just trying to live their lives like everybody else
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just trying to,
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you know, just to to love their kids and their families
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that have been here for years and years contributing
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$8.5 billion a year,
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$8.5 billion a year paying taxes in California alone.
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and, and you,
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you want an orderly pro you wanna reform immigration system,
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let's do it. Let's do it in a responsible way,
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in a way that brings us together,
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not destroys the fabric of our communities and our economy.
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He is wrecking the economy of this country,
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not just California. He's wrecking industries that we rely on industries
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that are points of pride.
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and,,
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and this recklessness needs to be called out and again forgive me
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for being long winded,
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but,, but I,
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I think this is a code red serious moment.
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Governor, from devastating wildfires to ongoing immigration raids,
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California has faced challenge after challenge this year,
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and we're only on month 6.
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Yet communities continue to show up for one another.
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What do you think makes the state of California so uniquely resilient
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Well, I think it's reflected in the capacity.
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Of our ability to live and advance together across our differences.
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We're a majority minority state.
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We practice pluralism. It's a word,
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by the way, Donald Trump is never uttered in his life
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He would have to look it up because he doesn't know
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what it means. And and it's it's foundational we're universal state
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again that's that's our greatness there's the American dream and and I
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still think it's real,
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but there's only one other state that attaches itself to a dream
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there's no other state in America that attaches itself to a dream
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it's the California dream and the American dream and that dream is
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alive and well because we can continue to reconcile our differences we
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recognize that that you know that divorce is not an option.
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And and we have to define the terms of our future and
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and I just,
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I think if we can just soften these edges if we can
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work through this moment and we can remind ourselves that we all
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need to be loved,
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we all need to love we all want to be protected,
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we all want to be connected to something bigger than ourselves we
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all want to be respected.
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that,,
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we'll be fine and we'll thrive,
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and I think that's why California continues to outperform and continues to
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thrive. Thank you,
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Governor and we really appreciate you again talking to us and
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our community because it is,
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you know, we're in unprecedented times but having someone like you
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being vocal and also being able to reach out just to our
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audience is is really really important so we thank you for your
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time. I appreciate all you guys are doing it's an honor
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to be with you.
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Thank you, Governor.
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It's deeply personal to us.