So now we're gonna toss it over to a,
more of a serious man matter.
Oh, Trump has 91 cases against him.
Did you know that I knew he had a lot of cases
One, I didn't know 91.
Exactly. So actually to break down a little bit of what's
going on in Trump's world,
we have Nikki mccann Ramirez,
a politics reporter from Rolling Stone joining us right now.
Nikki. Can you hear us?
Yes, hi. Thank you for having me.
No. Yeah. Thank you so much for the time and
for coming on. I'm not sure if you caught what we
were talking about right now about Trump's,
91 cases against him.
Well, I did but I have to clarify one point.
It is not 91 cases so much as 91 specific individual criminal
counts that does not however include civil litigation.
Sorry, what was the last word?
So it's 91 criminal counts spread across maybe half a dozen cases
That number does not include any other civil litigation,
criminal versus civil court that Trump is involved with.
One example of the civil cases is the ongoing Eugene Carroll defamation
trial. What would you say is the most serious case?
Like in your opinion,
the most serious case?
So the way I look at it is there's sort of what
I call the big 32 of them I think are a little
bigger than the third.
The two big ones that are ongoing right now being the DOJ
election interference trial and Georgia's Rico case against Trump and more than
a dozen of his allies alleging that the president tried to interfere
with the election results in the state of Georgia.
The third one is the Eugene Carroll case.
Mostly because I think now that a jury has found Trump liable
for abuse and defamation.
It goes to show that juries in this country are amiable to
ruling against a president even if it's in a civil court.
The DOJ election interference case is currently in a bit of
a stalling phase because Trump is arguing before the DC Federal Court
of Appeals that he as president or that presidents have the right
to commit crimes. Basically with impunity.
The argument that Trump and his attorneys are making before the US
Court of appeals is that a president cannot be convicted or prosecuted
for a crime that was committed while he was in office unless
he's first impeached by the Senate.
So basically, if you're president,
you could do whatever you want.
Like this is what it sounds like.
That's insane. To me,
the Federal Court of Appeals is a panel of three judges and
they'll decide on the question,
one of the judges asked Trump's attorney.
So hypothetically if the president ordered seal team six to kill his
political opponent, would the,
would we be able to prosecute the president for that crime,
the crime of murder,
of ordering an assassination?
And Trump's attorney responded yes,
but only if he was impeached first,
which that just sets up the scenario that,
you know, if a president hypothetically had his political opponent assassinated
and then resigned from office,
you couldn't prosecute him or if the plot wasn't discovered until after
he left office, you couldn't prosecute him.
It's, it's an absurd proposition,
but it's currently being argued in court and we expect a decision
from the Court of Appeals later this week.
And if the court does not rule in Trump's favor,
it's expected that he will appeal to the Supreme Court.
But thank you so much.
Thank you for your time.
We honestly appreciate all the knowledge you shared and hope you can
join us again in the future because as we know,
this is only like scratching the surface.
we're excited to keep diving in with you.
I had so many note cards any time.
But again, thank you Nikki and hopefully again,
we have you back on soon.
Of course. Thank you both.