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The Real Veronica Speaks Out

May 31, 2024
TikTok creator Veronica explains how her workplace skits are being stolen by cartoonists and what platforms should be doing to keep creators safe from theft.
Show transcript
00:00
Brother. Do you get pissed when like someone steals your memes
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because I get pissed.
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I mean, it's ok to like credit or ask for permission
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But like no,
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but yeah, like freaking take the time with the I do
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get upset or like when it's like credit unknown,
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I'm like, you literally went to my page and took the
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video and you're like credit.
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It's like, but you know,
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you know, so yes to answer your question,
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I do get a little,
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a little upset. I'm sure you've seen the Veronica skits.
00:28
Oh yeah, I see.
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Those are hilarious. Hr and like,
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yeah, but look,
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these cartoons are actually not her content.
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Like these are knockoffs.
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Wait, what do you mean?
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Yeah. So the audio is actually hers,
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like the actual skits and look at how long it takes to
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get to actually get to her face.
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So that's Veronica Veronica,
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the face, the cartoons are literally ripping her off and stealing
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her audio from her actual videos and they're animating cartoons with her
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audio without her permission or credit.
01:01
Yeah. And is taking money out of her pocket.
01:05
That sounds like a mess.
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It sounds complicated because it's so complicated.
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We want to talk to Veronica herself to,
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you know, help us break down what's going on and how
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she's dealing with all of this.
01:16
Hi, Veronica, welcome to the show.
01:18
Hi. Thank you.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Thank you for coming on.
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We're big fans by the way of yours.
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Oh, thank you so much and yeah.
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No, you're absolutely right.
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It's challenging, you know,
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in the beginning I thought they were super cute.
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I would get them all the time.
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My friends would send them,
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family would be like,
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hey, I saw a cartoon and I'm like,
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oh, I hadn't seen them for a while and then suddenly
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they were everywhere and I'm like,
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oh, this is real.
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Yeah, I mean,
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we were all surprised to hear that the Veronica cartoons were not
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your own work. What was your reaction when they started coming
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out using you, your voice without your consent?
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I started realizing that people didn't know that there was an actual
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human behind it. Like they thought the cartoons were me.
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And I'm like, no,
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because people would recognize my voice as I was out and about
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and they're like, but I've never seen your face.
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I love your cartoons.
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I'm like, I don't have cartoons.
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So, you know,
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it, it's kind of disheartening because like you were saying they
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know where they got it from.
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Like you can credit me.
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It takes one quick little,
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this is Veronica's Audio.
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And they don't do it.
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And it's unfortunate because I do put a lot of brain power
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into making those skits and I take time out of my day
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and I post them to help people learn.
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And with my philosophy,
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I'm really trying to help people learn how to defend themselves in
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the workplace and how to,
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you know, kind of chill when it comes to working in
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a call center because it's the worst possible work ever.
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And you know, I think,
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I think I give something more to it that the cartoons can't
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but they don't know who I am.
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So it, it's kind of sad actually,
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it makes me sad.
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Now in the beginning it was kind of cool.
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And it's like, dude,
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that's what you said.
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A simple like credit and actually going back to your job experiences
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like your storytelling in your videos is so good.
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Like what shitty jobs have you worked in the past?
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That kind of like encourage because again,
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we've all worked customer service and like,
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I work in a call center too.
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It just some of the shit you deal with is just like
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oh my God.
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So again seeing your videos,
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I'm like, how does she know that we've all had that
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customer, we all have that.
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The meeting one got me.
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I know that's trending on tiktok right now.
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OK. So thank you so much for attending the meeting.
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I'll be sure to update you all on all the questions that
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you had. Does anyone have any other questions?
03:37
Ok, perfect. Also,
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Veronica, I actually had a question about the report you were
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supposed to send over.
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Can you give me some updates on that?
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I haven't received it.
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I actually turned that into Jamie last week.
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She hasn't gotten it over to you.
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Let's go ahead and take that offline.
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All right, everybody.
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Thank you so much for being here.
03:53
Hold on, hold on,
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hold on. Why do we need to take it offline?
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I would just prefer to have this conversation offline and that's,
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but no, you were,
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you were prepared to call me out right now in front of
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everyone. So, are you not calling Jamie out just because
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she's your team lead and you don't want it to look bad
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or why? Why aren't you willing to ask her on camera
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the same way you were asking me?
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I've worked in tons of industries.
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I've worked in leasing,
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I've worked in banking.
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I've worked in most recently,
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an airline call center.
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I've worked in the hospitals.
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I've worked in law enforcement.
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So when people ask me,
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where do you get your content from?
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I'm like life experience.
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Like literally every job I've had has given me enough content for
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a lifetime. It's so relatable like everyone goes through it and
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we're going back to the issue.
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So this seems like an easy solution for the social networks
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to fix or what are they doing to crack down on these
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content thieves? You're shaking your head.
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Have you reached out to me?
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You're not doing anything because I actually report a lot of them
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myself., my followers report tons of them.
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My followers actually get muted sometimes when they keep tagging me because
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you know, the social media sites are like,
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no, this is not a violation.
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And I'm like, wow,
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ok. I haven't gotten muted but I've definitely gotten the feedback
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Like, nope,
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nothing's wrong here. And I'm like,
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what do you mean?
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Nothing's wrong here? Make it make sense because I'm telling you
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I'm linking the original video showing you when the copyright was
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actually filed because since it's digital,
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it has an automatic copyright because it has the date and time
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stamp on it. That's crazy because it's like,
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dude, like they're on top of the whole,
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like, if you use music for longer than a few seconds
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they'll tell you they'll take down that.
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But what's the difference between music and someone's like your voice?
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Like, what the hell,
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I mean, you know what I think it is money.
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It's like universal say,
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hey, they better not use it.
05:47
OK. Universal. Hey Warner music.
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Like meanwhile individual creator,
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it's like, oh no,
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that's what it comes down to.
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It's always money. It's so unfortunate,
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man. I mean,
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like you so much freaking talent and like these,
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again, your voice,
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your ideas, your stories are going viral.
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Obviously what's the best way to find your actual content?
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Well, I have one tiktok and one Instagram.
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That's it because there's a million fake pages out there too,
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which is super annoying.
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But my Instagram is the real Veronica underscore and that's Veronica
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with A K and then my Tik Tok is VXO 13.
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Super simple. Thank you.
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Thank you Veronica. You take care,
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take care guys.