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The New Yorker’s Nanny Art Stirs Controversy

September 9, 2024
The New Yorker’s latest cover depicting immigrant caretakers of white children, draws heated reactions.
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This week’s cover of The New Yorker is creating a buzz online with its powerful illustration.The cover, titled “A Mother’s Work” by R. Kikuo Johnson, gives a glimpse into the world of child caretakers in New York City. The illustration...
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Bad news. Brother studies show that parents are more stressed than
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ever. Y I mean,
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baby is so small but yeah,
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it's tough. I mean they say it's tough trying to balance
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being a working couple.
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I mean, you know,
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this being a working couple and raising a kid while also trying
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to afford everything. Yeah,
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so far it hasn't been too expensive but I can only imagine
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how crazy everything's going.
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Oh my God, the high chair is fucking $300.
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Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Plus with the increased cost of living,
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higher expectations for parental involvement in education.
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Additionally, the constant connectivity enabled by technology often blurs the lines
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between work and home life,
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leaving parents with little downtime to recharge.
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So it's different from back then.
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I know when my parents would come home,
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they're off like they're off the clock.
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But now it's like,
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oh well, working from home,
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this email, whatever,
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you know, I got to tend to the different to it
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Yeah, times are changing.
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I wonder how our parents did it honestly because shit's crazy.
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But I mean, luckily my parents are really close by and
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so are my Suegra.
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So it's like we have,
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I was going to say it really does take a village.
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But yeah, I can't imagine for parents that don't have that
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resource. How crazy it is because some people are moved out
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of state or they move somewhere else and and sometimes their
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parents, you know,
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unfortunately, are no longer with us.
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So it's, it,
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it's tough. And it kind of reminds me of this
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New York Times cover that went viral.
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The artist R. Kikuo Johnson drew it because he found out
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that he could not afford to have a nanny.
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I mean, who could nowadays?
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Yeah, I mean,
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I've heard of like the prices of childcare and stuff.
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I'm like, I'll buy my mom like lunch and I'll give
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her stuff. I'm like you,
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you do that. It's like that's a form of payment that
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she doesn't expect. But it's like,
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dude, these nannies are doing so much for these families,
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like they raise their kids,
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they feed them and they really do,
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you know, provide a lot.
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But actually we wanted to bring on Catalina,
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a family friend, right?
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That we know to talk about her experience.
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She was a nanny for 15 years and we want to see
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what she thinks of the cover and her experience with all of
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this. Hi Kata.
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Thank you so much for joining us.
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Hi guys. Thank you.
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Thank you for having me.
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Oh, yeah, of course.
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So getting into the cover,
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did that cover, like,
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affect you? And were most of the kids that you
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looked after white? Yes.
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And, you know,
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I saw that and I,
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you know, so many memories.
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Yes, they were white.
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They are, they were,
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family actually most of them and especially one family that
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I look after, like,
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you know, since the kids were born.
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Yeah, they were white from Connecticut.
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Well, and were you able to expose them to like your
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cultura? Like maybe like teach them Spanish?
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Oh yeah. You know,
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I spent so much time with them that,
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you know, I started looking after them since they were born
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So the kids learn Spanish and the funny thing is that
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I was going to school to learn English while I was watching
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them, right? So they were speaking English with my
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accent with my Spanish accent.
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So that's still a joke when we see each other because they
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will say words or they have like certain words they still say
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that are like in like with my accent,
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right? So they were trying to like a lot of time
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with me. So they did that they learned Spanish,
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I, you know,
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into the food. So they know a lot about Colombia or
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Arepas Empanadas. So they know all that.
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Yeah, the language,
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the food. And did you ever meet any other nannies?
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Was it like a nanny,
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like group chat or?
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Oh, yes. The meetings at the park.
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I met a lot of people when I was working and we
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used to get together at the park at the local park and
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then even celebrate the kids' birthdays too.
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We will tell the parents,
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hey, it's so,
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and so's birthday is coming up.
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We're going to get together.
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So we'll throw pinatas in the park for the kids.
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So I made a lot of friends there and they were all
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like nannies as well.
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So it was, yeah,
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it was really nice.
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It's a whole community,
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right? It is a community.
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Yes. And were the nannies typically Latino?
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Yes. OK. How do you navigate boundaries with kids who
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might get too close or,
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you know, I know that was hard.
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It's a fi, I mean,
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you just nurture them as much as you can and you get
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close as much as you can.
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But obviously you have to communicate and remind them that,
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you know, and remind myself and their parents,
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you know, they have parents,
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they are your parents.
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So it was when you like when you're with them,
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just give them everything all the love,
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respect, you know,
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nurture them. But when they're with their parents,
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you just have to like,
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OK, it's time to be with your parents.
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So always constantly reminding them and just like making sure that they
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you know, they know the parents and I'm the nanny
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I'm the caregiver,
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but it's hard. I know for sure.
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I remember when you know,
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I grew up with the nanny.
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It was my, both my parents were,
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were working parents so they had to get one and I feel
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like I grew really close to her and I was,
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I could tell she got a little,
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you know, so,
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I mean, I went through that a lot,
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a lot of times the kids,
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the kids will call me mom mommy.
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So I was like,
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hey, yes. No,
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I'm Kata. Ok.
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That's your mommy because the parents will get jealous a little bit
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Have you actually seen these kids become adults?
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Like, how does that feel?
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To see them all grown up and like,
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I don't know how old they are now but to see them
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graduate, they are.
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Daniella's age 21. We still have,
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they're big, they're in university,
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they're going to school.
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and you know,
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birthdays and special, you know,
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holidays, we text,
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we send pictures to each other.
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sometimes I go visit.
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But yeah, it's amazing to see them so big and also
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the love and respect that they have for me.
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It's like, it's a great feeling,
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you know. Oh,
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for sure. I'm sure you are a big part of where
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they are now. That's what the parents said.
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I was, I was with them for so long and since
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they were born, so their parents is like your second mom
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they always say that.
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So it's really sweet.
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Yeah. Really nice.
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Amazing. Thank you so much.
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We appreciate you, take care.
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Ok, nice to meet you guys.
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Bye.