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Is this the downfall of Taylor Swift?
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So there's a new documentary on Max,
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right? Two parts with her side of the story and Scooter
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Brown's side of the story regarding her masters and it's it's
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to break this down for us,
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we're gonna have our in house Swifty,
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Camilla de Jesus join us and just lay out all the
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Camila, explain this to me what's going on Camila.
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How are you, what's up?
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but I feel like this documentary was not,
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but I'm excited to talk about it.
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Can you just tell us like the gist of the documentary?
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So the documentary takes you through the not legal but I
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guess scandalous nature of Scooter Braun coming into Taylor Swift's masters.
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And before owning the recordings for her six albums,
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it's about that and about Taylor,
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not necessarily having wanted him to have that and also having tried
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to purchase those songs.
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Yeah, so it follows that her side and his side
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So who was in the wrong?
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Who do you think was in the wrong Scooter Ron?
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In my Humble Swifty?
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Opinion and I wouldn't even say it's in the wrong.
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It's more just like it feels icky to have someone own music
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that the artist doesn't like Taylor's whole point is I don't want
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this man that has disrespected me for years to own my music
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and make money off of me.
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I think that's a fair point.
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The second part is like,
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well, it's not illegal and that's the whole argument and it's
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like no one said it was illegal.
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That's fine. You can make your dirty deal.
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Yeah, exactly. It was an ethical issue.
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Ok. And would fans want to support you?
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I think there's some validity to some things he said or not
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him, but his people said,
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I think it's fair to say that the swifty fandom or any
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fandom you come with responsibility and you should probably tell them,
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you know, let's not send death threats.
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I think that's a fair argument.
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But then when it's combined with,
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like, and she's such a victim and she wrote this and
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I think it was to manipulate it just then it's,
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then it just becomes something.
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I just don't think they really had a leg to stand on
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and I don't think anyone's rooting for a random manager.
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They don't know. So it's like no one really cares enough
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get her, get her to what?
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People have been canceling them off,
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like cutting them loose.
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So this guy's just freaking unhinged,
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just throwing. I don't know.
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I mean, that's what it seems like.
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Right. They call him a family man.
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They fully don't acknowledge some scandals that have happened with him and
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his family. But they also don't acknowledge that all those people
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Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande Demi Lovato all recently left him
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and he went into retirement for an alleged illegal activity that has
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not come into the light,
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but it seems like something illegal has happened.
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Wow, so get ready for that scooter documentary.
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it seems like based on like what's going on like this Taylor
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Swift documentary is kind of like ammo for the Taylor haters and
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people just looking for a reason to hate her and her fan
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base. She has such a big fan base that I feel
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like people just like to kind of like attack her because at
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Maybe this documentary came with receipts but it all,
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they kind of fell short.
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They weren't really valid.
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It sounds like that's true.
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Camila remind us. Where can people follow you?
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Yes, you can follow me at Camila Dees on Instagram.
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You can also follow a ribbon magazine which is my new magazine
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that we are launching Girlhood.
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It is pop culture with a feminist twist and so we're trying
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to celebrate girlhood and what is more girly than Taylor Swift So
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there is a whole beat on Taylor Swift and you can find
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more articles on their ribbon magazine on Instagram Ribbon magazine.com.
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We're posting really awesome stuff.
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Awesome. Well, congratulations on that too and thank you so
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much for joining us as always,
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you know, we'll catch up with the morte cheese,
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Miss. Yes. Thank you for the future.
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