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Killer Cheeses, Rusty Cybertrucks and the Boys in Blue

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Cybertrucks are rusty already, immigrants will add $7 trillion to the national economy and Apple first adopters are returning their face computers. Plus, criminal lawyer Chris Carrión on how to avoid getting shot by a cop, cheese king Carlos Yescas explains the recent listeria outbreak in Mexican cheeses and a recap of Mexican president AMLO’s term with Prof. Rudy Alamillo.
Show transcript
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2222. And we are back.
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We are back. Welcome to Lincoln Bio.
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I'm Alejandro and I'm Jenny and we got a great show for
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you guys this Friday.
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No, you owe me a,
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a beer because it's Friday.
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All right, sorry.
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But yeah, we have some good stories for you guys today
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We have cyber fucked.
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Oh like cyber truck but cyber fuck,
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get it. We have the provision update.
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We have an immigration story.
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Yeah, and,
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and we're also talking about Queso Fresco.
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Well, there's something going on with Queso Fresco.
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There is Chee. Thank you for stealing my joke,
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brother. I had that one.
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I had that one.
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But anyhoo, we're also talking about how to talk to cops
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We got a loaded show for you today.
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Let's dive in. All right,
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sister. Well, have you heard of the cyber trucks?
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Yes. And I actually have seen one outside the other day
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You saw one.
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I feel like it's so funny.
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People are like, oh my God,
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I saw one and I'm like,
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but get in there like,
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did you drive it?
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No, but it's funny because it was not funny but
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people are spending so much money on these trucks and they're getting
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rusted because of, I guess the material.
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And,, Tessa said these,
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yeah, like rusty trucks.
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Oh, no. Like,
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imagine that old car that's been seeing your lot,
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you know? Yeah,
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it's rusty but it's in the eighties and seventies.
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But this truck is brand new off the lot and already rusted
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shit when you spend all that money on it.
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Damn. Yeah. And then Tesla and Elon,
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sorry, Elon. No shape.
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They're, you know,
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claiming that it's stain resistant but it's not rust resistant.
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So, and yeah,
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people are saying that it shows the stains kind of like
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some of our kitchen appliances that we see.
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Like someone even said it looks like a dirty Kata in your
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sink. You're sitting there hard water stains.
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It's like no, dude,
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I think they dropped the ball on this 10 my God.
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So you wouldn't get one.
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I mean, I,
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no I would not.
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I, I feel like I al I also heard brother
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that people are like,
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I, I think that my friend told me that people are
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like pressing a but I think there's a button you press for
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the, for the thing to go down the trunk and people
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are getting their fingers chopped off.
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Yeah, dude, I don't know if that's a rumor but
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supposedly that's a thing where it's so sharp and they don't have
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the little bumper thingies.
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You know how like,
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like safety bumpers that people are like pressing the button and I
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guess sometimes, you know,
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they have la mano nose so it's literally chopping people's fingers off
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So they chopping fingers off and you can't drive this car
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in the rain because it's in a rust.
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Then. What the fuck are we doing?
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Yeah, dude, we're moving backwards.
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But I can imagine telling you that to your theos like your
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dad. Hey, so you got this truck but you
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can't use it as a truck.
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Like you can't drive it in the rain.
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You can, it's not rough and tough.
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Like keep it locked up,
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make it look pretty but don't take it out.
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Nah, fuck out of here,
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Elon. This is not Edgar.
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Tacha approved. It's like,
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oh yeah. So we have Carlos here from ya.
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Thank you for having me and thank you for coming back again
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We're back again again and again.
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So what's going on?
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No. But I don't know if you guys heard but
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this fool, the show on Hulu,
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I thought you were talking about talking about this FD.
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The show got canceled.
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Are you serious? Yeah.
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So they had two seasons and apparently the news came out that
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it's not getting need for the third Hulu.
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Cut it. Dang.
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And I've heard nothing but good things about that.
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It was really good.
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I saw it the first season,
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like right when it dropped the second season.
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So I was waiting and it finally dropped.
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I watched it and,
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like, I thought it was good,
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like an easy watch.
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It's not, like,
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too serious, not too,
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like, come, like,
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it was like, not too corny.
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It was a good balance.
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Well, didn't saul,
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the,, the comedian we spoke to Saul.
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He didn't, you mentioned you were,
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did you ever watch it?
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I watch, I remember when you posted about it actually.
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And that was a time when I started watching it with,
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Jess and I was like,
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ok, that's a pretty good show.
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I could get into it.
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Right. Like the whole riff about him.
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and I forget the first episode with the band,
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the white band. I think that's what,
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yeah, the creeper.
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It's really stuck with me.
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But, yeah, not being renewed.
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Yeah. I mean,
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it's kind of, it's kind of,
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it kind of sucks because it's like they,
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then you like it and you're waiting for next season.
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It's like, you know,
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like, boom, like Tech Paolo,
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what happened to them?
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You know, we got,
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we got, we're not the ones that feel like this.
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So let's go ahead and,
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pull up some of the comments here.
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We can't have nothing.
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Exactly. We get one show finally or a few shows and
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they're like, so,
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and yeah, you read this,
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oh Something World. I don't say that.
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they always cancel shit.
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That's actually relatable to our culture and growing up like gentrified,
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right? Gentrified. It's frustrating to see a good show get
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canceled. And I think that's true.
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Right? Like gentrified,
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right? I thought it was really spectacular.
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I liked it. I like it one day at a time
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I don't know if you remember that with Justina Machado
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Isabella Gomez. But yeah.
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So like the cult like r able to our culture and growing
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up, yes, I,
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I saw those two primos and I thought of me and my
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primos kind of like butting heads sometimes kind of ping on each
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other. Yeah. And it's funny because like his cousin that
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was in jail comes out and he's kind of like
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stuck in that like,
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oh that's, that's whack fool and this and that he's like
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dude, like get with the times he's in,
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he's in the past technically.
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So it's, it was cool seeing that because we saw family
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members like that and then primos are again just like,
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like to punk us.
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So oh let's see this one.
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So Kevin Que Bueno said,
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why is it that all the Latino shows have hella short leashes
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and get cut. Hella quickly.
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I'm still pissed about Gente Fight,
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dude. That's what you said.
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Yeah, it is.
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So it's like, oh,
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we'll give you a season or two or maybe just to say
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you know, just to say we gave you like a
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your show and this is,
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yeah, see, look,
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I've been waiting for these two passes to return.
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I'm so sad. Hulu is a,
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is the real fool for this one.
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Yeah. And not in a good way like a bad fool
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like a whack fool because,
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yeah, like the sea,
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you know, season one and two came out and season two
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took forever too because it was on the fence as well.
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I, I think,
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and then they finally did and then season three is like no
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more. This one.
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really Hulu, like you don't have funds for this,
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you put out all kinds of garbage ass cartoons but can't keep
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a show. That's actually funny,
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man, we can't have anything nice shots fired.
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And that's true. Hulu has so many ads.
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Well, you know who owns Hulu,
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right? I, I do know the mouse,
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the mouse, the mouse,
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Mickey mouse, mouse.
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Which one I think?
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Yeah, I think that's the,
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the comment that's hitting home the most is that you have other
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mediocre shows that get renewed consistently,
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right? Yeah. And then you have a show,
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right? That is just like on a short leash is like
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if your viewers drop on the second season,
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second episode, I think,
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I think it's done for,
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you know, like people aren't tuning in and I think that's
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like a really bad justification of a show running,
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you know, sometimes the shows don't start off second season running
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the best and now it's like,
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oh you're gone. But even then I think it might be
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due to the fact that there's not as many Latinos in those
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rooms making those executive decisions because it's like,
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hey, like the white guys don't get it.
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It's like, of course they don't,
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they're probably like, what is that one Latino show?
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What is that one Latino show?
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Yeah. Yeah, I can connect to it.
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So hopefully again, if you're watching this show some love
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to this one,
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it's still on Hulu.
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So watch it, tag,
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you know, Hulu on Instagram and like,
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hey, bring this back and maybe who knows?
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But Hulu will bring it back or a different network to pick
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it up. It's the power of that support,
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right? Because we've seen it happen with other shows,
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right? They'll get picked up one day at a time,
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one day at a time.
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I'll mention a couple of other shows just like Community
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I don't not sure if you ever watched that.
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It was a sitcom got picked up,
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went over to a couple of different networks,
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but it was because of the massive supporters,
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right? So you could do it,
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you the peoples puede,
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you could, you could get them back on.
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It's just an encore.
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You gotta be there for the encore.
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They're gonna be more this fool,
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please. I need these fools to go and help those fools
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Carl for president. Let's go.
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OK. The honeymoon phase of the Apple Vision Pros appears to
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be over as buyers fan boys return their vision pros before their
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14 day return window closes.
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Users cited experiencing extreme headaches and motion sickness and a bunch of
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other shit. Oh wow.
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Are you gonna grab a pair of you?
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Apple Genius? I mean,
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look, you have 40 minutes to return it.
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I'm gonna buy you one of those pens and I'm just kidding
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on sorry scratch that.
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We'll leave that in.
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No. I,
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I, I've heard people returning them because like,
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oh I got dizzy.
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Oh it's too heavy.
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Oh I'm like, shut up,
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bro. You spent $3500 on this.
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You have a AK display on your freaking face.
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My boy, like you're in it like that's sick so passionate
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about that. But I'm also down to try it out
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you know, like and maybe if I don't like
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it, I'll return it.
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I'm gonna be like it was so heavy.
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Oh my God, I can't get him.
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Do we got enough budget,
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get them and then return them.
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But what my mom does,
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I'm just kidding. We blow $4000 for your boy and then
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you know, kind of have it pending.
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But anyways and you know what,
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just for the record we're not returning out,
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we are not returning out like we got some too.
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Those are dope like we can look at that.
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Look, I'm, I'm in it.
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I'm, she's living in 3024 bro.
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She's in the future.
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Look at that. Wow.
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Oh yeah. What,
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what was that grabbing?
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Imagine having to call out of work over wearing them on some
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Mele La Cabeza Sando vision pro and like what does hr mark
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that down as first of all problem like symptoms,
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the future brother, it is the future.
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Would you guys get them?
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Let us know in the comments.
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Immigration is good. According to reports,
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the current insurgent immigration will inject $7 trillion into the US economy
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According to the nonpartisan congressional budget office,
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2024 report 10 trillion.
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Yeah, so they wanna keep us out but $7 trillion is
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no, you know,
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chump change. But the reason being is because most new
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immigrants that are expected to come to the US are between 25
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and 54 years old which the CBO which is a congressional budget
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office turns as prime working years,
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this younger workforce will increase federal government revenue by one trillion.
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So again, they're like the younger,
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you know, immigrant group,
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I guess Bueno. Now all of a sudden you guys say
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it's good, which I'm glad that you see that but it's
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been good. Yeah,
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so this group of immigrants is replacing an older population of
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retirees. But ironically the congressional Republicans blocked a bipartisan immigration deal
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last week. Yeah,
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like so Chingo solos like,
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hey, these people wanna come here,
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work is gonna help the economy.
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It's like that Joe Biden mean it helps the economy.
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But anyways like they actually wanna work,
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guys come in here to just,
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you know, like get handouts and stuff.
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They, they wanna work but these boomers are like,
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nah, hold on,
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hold on. Not like that.
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Let us think about this a little more.
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It's like, all right,
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cool. $7 trillion into the economy.
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But what do you,
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we'll keep you guys posted.
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Hopefully these boomers in Congress shut their fucking mouths and retire soon
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Bye sister. I have some cheese man for you.
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Oh, you know,
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I look of the cheese man.
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Alright. Well is not a drill.
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People are dying around the country because of a stereo t to
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cheeses. If you ask me,
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this is no gua beautiful.
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I I had to google it too.
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The serious symptoms include nausea,
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vomiting toro it can also affect pregnant women and their unborn
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babies. So again,
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this is not nothing to joke about and if it's not treated
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in time, it can even cause death.
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Damn brother. So if you have cheese from these brands
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throw it away,
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their products are not safe to eat at this time.
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But yeah, it's crazy because this hasn't ha this is not
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something like completely brand new.
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It's happened in the,
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in the past, it happened in the eighties.
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Yeah. And specifically Jalisco Mexican products was being the one blamed
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for this and they were,
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you know, oh,
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it's the Mexican cheese.
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It's the Mexicans. However,
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that was not the case.
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It was the American distributors responsible for the outbreak.
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See, and so these American distributors include brands such as Knutsen
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Marigold and Jersey made just to name a few.
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Damn. I have nut and sour cream.
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It's like a one.
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Right. Yeah. No wonder I felt kind of queasy.
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Give me your and you fed to believe that we have a
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pro to talk to you about these cheeses.
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We have Carlo Yescas cheese industry,
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Trailblazer, an advocate for responsible business practices and food politics.
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The queso king, if you will king Queso,
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I like to call him,
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but that's OK. Let's bring him in.
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What's up? Hey guys,
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thank you so much for that introduction.
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Do people call you Kino or is it just me?
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I have never been called that.
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I'm very happy to be there.
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There you go. You're welcome.
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But thank you for taking the time.
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How did you become a cheese expert?
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It's kind of a long story.
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I'm originally from Mexico.
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My dad used to work for the government and one of the
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jobs he had was he worked for an organ or for a
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government branch called Reforma grad.
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And he will travel to around Mexico and basically give the titles
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of the lands of the people that actually live in the lands
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As you can imagine.
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He will arrive in these places in his towns and people will
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be very grateful that he was doing this,
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not himself, but,
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you know, the government and they will give him things from
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their production. And so sometimes he will come back with,
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you know, 10 pineapples or a crate of tomatoes.
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And in one of these two trips,
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he went to Chihuahua and came back with a 15 wheel of
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queso chihuahua and, you know,
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gave it to me and my sister and we were like,
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this is weird, you know,
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like it turns out that,
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you know, behind the cheese,
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there's a cow and a cheese makers and there's a whole story
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And so can cheese has been in our lives for
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a long time until one day.
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I said, you know,
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I really like cheese.
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Maybe. Let's try to start selling it.
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So me and my sister started a business in Mexico,
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everything just to come from there.
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I'm a cheese judge at the Word Cheese Awards.
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And yeah, it's a cheesy life,
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cheesy life. You're getting in there with the puns,
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those jokes that all sounds good to me,
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honestly. So, so Carlos,
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how is, how is Queso Fresco made?
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All cheese is kind of start the same way,
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right? Like you have the milk,
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you put it in a bag or a bucket and you
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put rennet in it.
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So renne can come from either the stomach of an animal.
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So that's animal rennet as a traditional rennet or it could also
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now come from a bacteria that is used to create an
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enzymatic process so that the milk coagulates and becomes a gel.
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And then you cut that curd which is kind of
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a gel like a gelatin and spills some of the water so
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that water is away.
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And that's where lactose is.
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And so this is sort of the basics of all cheeses.
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And then queso fresco,
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for example, once you have cut the curd,
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you mill that curd,
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you, you sort of break it up and you know,
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and then you put it in this little rounds and that
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is, that is not your average process.
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That's all I'm gonna say.
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It sounds like that's the whole process.
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And actually, you said you mentioned this bacteria and again
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depending there's like different factors to all of this.
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Is there any dangers?
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And she making like,
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how can we prevent contamination,
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getting sick from these products?
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You know, we need bacteria for a lot of things,
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right? Like we have more bacteria in our bodies than cells
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that, you know,
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sort of like the human cells.
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We are basically bacteria working around what we have
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created. Importantly is that with the modern food systems that we
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have some bacteria that are pathogenic to humans that make us
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sick, thrive in certain conditions.
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And those certain conditions normally are very cold and very wet environments
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So it's not so much that cheese is risky to make
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It's just that the conditions in which we keep now cheese
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to, you know,
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center around the country and make sure that it's refrigerated all the
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way kind of creates the perfect conditions that in the case that
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there were bacteria to start with doses are multiplying and then
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you know, you go and eat them and get really
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sick. And the problem with listeria is that it kills you
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and people who are immunocompromised or,
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you know, young Children or old,
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older people, people who are pregnant will be at
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a risk of that infection taking over and you know,
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killing them. What I think is interesting is that we always
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hear when it's cheese but we never hear when it's lettuce.
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And it actually there's more Listeria from sort of salads that
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we buy in the bags.
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There is way more out of this year from there banning cheese
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But when it's cheese is like,
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we feel like, oh my God,
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the primordial food that I love.
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How is my cheese killing me?
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We never think of that.
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That is so true.
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Well, thank you so much Carlos.
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We really, really appreciate you coming on and sharing your expertise
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with us and Tambien.
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Where can people find you?
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They can find you online?
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Just my name, Carlos just because you'll find me on Instagram
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I put together tours for people to come visit cheese producers
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in Europe and so they can come and you travel with me
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learn a lot about cheese and we also sell cheese in
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Mexico and you can find us as Lacy.
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Thank you, Carlos.
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Thank you so much for your time.
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Thank you so much.
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D but you know what?
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Also it got my attention,
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how he called out lettuce.
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He's like, oh,
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don't, don't point the fingers at.
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There's me too. Oh my God man session.
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That was, it was,
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it was, it was goa but wait,
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it was Gouda. Oh,
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there you go. So the president of Mexico,
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Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador or Amlo as many people know him
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has been called both Mexico's Hugo Chavez and Mexico's Donald Trump.
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Oh, he loves attention and often says things just to troll
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his haters. Yeah.
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So thankfully here to explain how the election is going is Professor
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Rudy Alamillo of Western Washington University.
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Hi, Rudy, welcome.
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Hi. Thank you for having me.
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Thank you for coming on.
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So we wanted to ask you what is am low's track record
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as president. So Amlo is certainly a populist in the
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vein of, of a Donald Trump or,
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or a Hugo Chavez has this strong anti elite message.
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And when we compare Mexico's presidents in the post democratic era.
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So from 1994 until,
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until Amlo came into office in 2018,
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many of them were focused on strengthening democracy and not so much
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on delivering social services to the people in Mexico.
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And when Amlo came in as this outsider,
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he not only established this very broad safety net by
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establishing pensions for the elderly pensions,
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for the disabled apprenticeship programs for young people.
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But he did that by in fact,
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cutting the salaries and benefits of politicians.
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So day one in office,
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he cut his own salary by 60%.
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And then his party passed a law saying that no member
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of, of government,
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no one who works for the government can have a higher salary
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than the president. So immediately we see all of these elites
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taking like these, these salary pay cuts.
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And I think relative to someone like Hugo Chavez or even Donald
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Trump here in the United States,
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Amlo certainly walks the walk and and delivers a lot more on
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these promises. So for his supporters in Mexico,
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he has been doing a fantastic job these last six years
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Interesting. No.
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Yeah. So he took a pay cut but there's still like
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allegations that he's taking money from like,
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you know, drug traffickers.
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Do you think have always responded at all to that fact
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or those allegations, I think am low.
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has, has done an excellent job of presenting his critics
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as, as folks who are attacking him because of all the
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changes that he's tried to make in Mexico with regards to,
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to bringing up the the poor and middle classes at the expense
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of the wealthy. So any criticism you,
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you levy at Amlo,
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whether it be a sexist comment he made about someone running for
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president or, or ties,
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supposed ties with,
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with Narco traffickers. Amlo can just easily,
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just kind of like shrug it off his shoulder and say no
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that's not me.
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That's, that's what my rivals are saying.
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And in this case where we have,
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you know, specific allegations being made by the DEA it's very
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easy for Amlo to say,
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well, of course,
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the United States doesn't like me.
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The DEA is somehow working on behalf of the United States
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in order to, to tarnish my legacy.
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So am low's opponents are certainly trying to capitalize on.
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But Amlo supporters, I think when,
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when you look at folks who have been the the beneficiary of
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of these substantial social spending programs,
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nothing is really going to to tarnish their image of him
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because he's just delivered so much to the people in a way
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that no real president in Mexican history has going back until at
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least like the 19 fifties.
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I wanted to ask one last question.
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It's only been about 20 years since Mexicans really had multiple parties
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and candidates to choose from.
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How is democracy working out?
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That, that's an excellent question.
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I think when Mexico transitioned to a democracy,
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one of the, the hard lessons for Mexico to learn coming
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from a dictatorship was that in democracy,
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as we know here in the United States things move very,
24:14
very slowly because you have divided government when the dictatorship of the
24:18
pri was in power from the 19 twenties until about the year
24:21
2000. If they wanted to get something done,
24:23
they just passed it and it was done.
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It was a single party dictatorship.
24:27
But the interesting thing is from about 1998 until 2018 when Amlo
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came into office, no one party in Mexico controlled the president
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a and both chambers of the legislature.
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So there was divided government for about 20 years,
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which essentially meant that that a lot of nothing got done in
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Mexico until Amlo came in.
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So Amlo is not only doing lots of things but compared to
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all of his predecessors,
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he looks like someone who's delivering on democracy in a way that
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that no one else really has.
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It's very insightful. Thank you so much,
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Professor Rudy. We really appreciate your time.
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Thank you for having me.
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It was a great time.
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Now, when can people find you on social or?
25:04
Absolutely. You can find me on Twitter and,
25:06
and my links to,
25:07
to everything else will be on Twitter.
25:08
It's it's at my name.
25:10
So at Rudy Rudy Alamillo A L Ami Llo.
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Perfect. Thank you.
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So, thank you so much,
25:17
Rudy. Thank you.
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Take care. Good one.
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Oh my God. Oh no,
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brother, brother. What do I do?
25:36
Don't worry, I'm gonna Chris Car.
25:38
Oh Chris car, the criminal lawyer to help us how to
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talk to cops. Chris.
25:44
Oh, thank God,
25:47
I feel the whatever they say.
25:50
Good. That was good.
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Hey, Chris, nice to meet you.
25:53
Thank you so much for hopping on.
25:54
As you can tell we just got pulled over.
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What do we do next?
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Well, the first thing you're gonna do is shut the fuck
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up, right? You do not want to talk to the
26:07
police if you don't have to and you don't want to do
26:10
their job for them.
26:12
So shut the fuck up.
26:14
Do not say anything if you have 1/5 amendment,
26:17
right? Not to incriminate yourself and not to speak to the
26:21
police if you don't want to or if there's not a lawyer
26:24
present. So that's the first thing they're gonna do.
26:26
Check. Can the police check our car?
26:30
The constitution says they have to have a warrant to search your
26:33
car, right? But they can see it and look at
26:37
anything that's in plain sight.
26:39
So if they're stopping you in a car,
26:41
they can look inside your windows and see what's on the seats
26:44
what's on the floors?
26:46
What they cannot do is go through the trunk,
26:49
go through the glove box,
26:52
go through your center console in,
26:54
in the little pockets behind the seats.
26:56
They can't do any of that without a warrant or without your
26:59
consent. Oftentimes when people get stopped,
27:02
the cops will say,
27:03
do you mind if I have a look around and people kind
27:06
of casually just say yes and that's it.
27:09
That's all they need to search your car.
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And now if you've got anything,
27:12
at least you get arrested for it and all you had to
27:14
do was shut the fuck up and say no,
27:17
if they tell me to step outside my vehicle and I'm like
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scared as fuck,
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what do I do?
27:22
Can I record them?
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Should I ignore them or?
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So you cannot ignore police,
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right? Courts in all 50 states have ruled on this issue
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You can't just ignore them and stand there like a fucking
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mind. They can ask you to get out the vehicle
27:42
You should not refuse.
27:44
If they do ask you to get out,
27:45
they can ask you a couple questions,
27:47
they can ask for your driver's license,
27:49
your name. You can't refuse that they can arrest you
27:53
If you don't have a license,
27:54
you are permitted to record police.
27:57
I know here in New York State they just passed a
27:59
law saying you can do that.
28:01
Most of the other states have similarly passed laws saying you can
28:05
record the police and certainly if you have a passenger,
28:08
they have more than enough right to record the police.
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So I would encourage that as well.
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What should I do if the cop is on a power
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trip, I've got pulled over and then they get a little
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more shut up. I'm like,
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oh, here's my ID.
28:23
Like, I don't know,
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like, what do I do?
28:26
The most important thing that a motorist can do is be
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calm, be polite.
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I understand. You might be scared.
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You might be confused.
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You might not know what's happening but you should not do anything
28:38
that is going to trigger that police officer make him more scared
28:42
or more on edge if he's violating your rights.
28:46
If he's cursing at you,
28:47
if he's acting belligerent,
28:49
just take note of the date,
28:50
the time. Try to remember badge numbers,
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shield numbers,
28:56
their, their name tags and let the lawyers handle it and
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that decision, you know,
29:01
unfortunately could save your life.
29:04
We've all seen these cases where cops,
29:06
you know, stop someone,
29:07
things get out of hand and,
29:09
and the motorist ends up dead because they didn't cooper or they
29:13
didn't just follow the orders.
29:14
They, they tried to fight,
29:16
when is it time to talk to a lawyer?
29:18
The first thing you should do,
29:20
whether you're being stopped by the police in a car or out
29:23
on the street is ask,
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are you free to leave?
29:26
If you are not free to leave,
29:28
then you are technically under police custody and quite possibly under arrest
29:33
So if the police want to question you after that,
29:35
they have to mirandize you and you have a right to speak
29:39
with a lawyer, you don't have to talk to them,
29:40
you say right then and there,
29:42
I want a lawyer here in New York City and in most
29:45
of the other states now,
29:46
police are all required to wear body cameras on their chest.
29:49
So just keep repeating so that camera can pick it up.
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I want to speak to a lawyer.
29:54
I refuse to answer questions.
29:56
I do not consent for you to search my car,
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my person, my bag,
30:00
whatever. If they refuse,
30:03
that's fine, just keep repeating it.
30:05
And the first chance you get you talk to a lawyer and
30:07
we'll handle that another day.
30:09
So any final advice you give to us in our audience
30:12
watching cop, he's not your friend.
30:15
He does not want to help you no matter how much they
30:18
say, oh, I just want to help you out.
30:20
Tell me what, no,
30:20
they're not. They are recording everything,
30:23
they're writing it all down and they are going to use it
30:25
against you. Do not cooperating in the sense of giving information
30:31
Just be polite,
30:32
be courteous and you know,
30:35
let me take care of it.
30:36
I also wanted to ask where can people find you?
30:39
I'm on Instagram or you can go visit my website at
30:42
Carry on legal.com. Send me ad m send me an
30:47
email and you know,
30:49
I'm happy to talk to anyone.
30:50
I give this advice out for free.
30:51
So you don't even have to pay me.
30:53
All right. Well,
30:53
hopefully next time I got a ticket.
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I'll hit you up because I like to.
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Yeah, I'll just,
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I'll look good at that,
30:59
but thank you, Chris.
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Have a good one.
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Appreciate the time. Thank you.
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Bye bye. Well,
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guys, it's all time for today.
31:07
Thank you for tuning in.
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Thank you guys. And once again,
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I am Jenny and this is Alejandro.
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We'll see you Monday,
31:14
Wednesday and Friday night,
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not Monday, brother Monday is a holiday.
31:18
We're, we're, we're not coming in Monday.
31:20
In that case, we're not doing this shit Monday in that
31:22
Enjoy your long weekend and we'll see you Wednesday.
31:25
Hey, thank you guys.