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Hey guys, welcome back to Lincoln Bio.
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I'm Jenny and I'm Alejandro.
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And we have an exciting show for you guys today,
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brother. Tell him about it.
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first up crumble cookies has his own cartel.
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Now, technically, and Juana gets his own Barbie de Juarez
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Yes. And Carlos Eduardo Espina joins us for La Vota
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and we get ratchet a group of Fronteras concert in Vegas.
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Invite. We invited you.
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Oh, yeah. My wife didn't let me go to that
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anyways, let's start the show.
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So for our first story,
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tiktok, videos of crumble cookies being smuggled to Mexico.
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Crumble cookies. Crumble cookies,
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brother, they are selling 12 packs for 70 bucks each which
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they are typically like 25 bucks.
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That's a big up chart.
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Oh, yeah. And how much is that?
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Can we, can we research that?
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But yeah, it's crazy because apparently they don't have them in
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Mexico. So they're reselling them over there and then crumble cookies
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caught on there are actually many resellers are even purchasing individual boxes
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to like break up the dozens and make more profit for single
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they're hustling crumble cookies.
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They really are and it's like,
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I've tried crumble cookies.
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They're OK, like they're good.
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the craze though. Like,
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how again, how much is that in Pesos,
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wait, $70 is 1378 Pesos,
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bro. Dude, I'm in the wrong fucking business.
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Are you gonna, you gonna be a cookie smuggler?
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I know. I like an article for cookies.
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I mean, I actually have a plug for crumble but be
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cool. He's a little sketchy but spa guys.
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Hello for you. Oh You got the goods.
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Look around real quick,
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You're making it hot,
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we good. 00 we got the whole case.
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All right. Make sure that is all hits.
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Wait, we we're gonna trust him.
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How do we know everything's in here?
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Well, how does he know he's gonna get his money?
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Facts. What? Yo I need some help with shipping handling
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because this ain't it?
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Oh thank you. Thank you.
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OK. Which one are you going in first?
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Smores. That's a new one.
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I haven't tried. I'm down,
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Mm. That one's bomb.
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The S'mores one. Hey,
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I have to try the oatmeal.
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I'm like a huge honestly guys,
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oatmeal cookies. They're so underrated.
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Mm. But that one looks gross.
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It tastes like a cinnamon roll.
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Ah I get what the fuzz is about if you don't have
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this in Mexico but Mexico has a bunch of really good like
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cookies and, and B and stuff.
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So I'm like damn like why they all hyped over this?
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You know, is this the branding?
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I mean crumble cookies is good.
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Would you guys wanna buy some for 70 bucks?
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Me neither. It's better cookies.
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I'm sorry. And y'all got money to spend by all means
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go in but I ain't doing it.
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Yeah, I don't get the hype.
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So there's this fugitive known as El Diablo,
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right? And he was captured in Mexico 20 years after he
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committed a murder in Ohio.
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Exactly. That's ironic.
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He just oh semi and Mao.
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So yeah, when he was arrested,
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he was actually a police officer in Mexico.
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Makes sense. Really?
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dude, I feel like if I was a fugitive,
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I think that's the less will less believe that I'm a fugitive
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especially Mexico or what or even though like it's like very corrupt
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yeah, that makes sense.
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No. Yeah. So Antonio El Diablo Riano,
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now 72 was arrested in Sapo tit plan PMA and charged with
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first degree murder stemming from the incident that happened in 22,004
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And the other was even profiled on TV and came out on
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America's most wanted. So,
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you know, homeboy was away in Mexico doing cop things.
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Meanwhile again he was like,
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people didn't know where he was,
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he was on America's Most wanted.
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Yeah. Well, it kinda,
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it kinda sounds to me like,
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like, I think he was probably even corrupt in Mexico,
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to be honest. Probably he has that look like he'd be
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like, hey, you did an I legal term.
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Give me $20 the cartel or something.
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Maybe. I don't know.
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I'm just saying allegedly,
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I don't know but I see it,
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traffic stop. Cops are like just wanted to find you for
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everything. When you go to TJ.
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I how you guys think that job interview went?
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No background check. Nothing like you're hired.
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I mean, maybe they're like,
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oh, he looks trustworthy if he has like papers from over
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and the crazy part is too.
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He also has family in Ohio.
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So again, homeboy did his thing.
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his wife and his three kids like and El Diablo was just
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somewhere in Mexico. I wonder why?
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How he got the name?
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El Diablo? That's like such a basic ass.
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But they do more murders.
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I want to know about that story but wait,
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wait, wait, I have a question.
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What would your guys' fugitive name be?
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Because you said Diablo was basic.
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Was my fugitive name would be La Sara de Los Perros,
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a dog lady. Oh my gosh.
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I don't know. I just take over look like him.
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Yeah, ID. I don't know.
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I heard that too because you look like you could be his
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cousin or something. I could see that and ok.
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I'm not gonna do that.
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Juan Gabriel, the legend of Mexican music,
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singer composer Divo de Juarez Merito.
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That icon. They're making a Barbie inspired by Juan Gabriel.
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Wait, Barbie or Ken?
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So that's what people are asking.
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They're like, again,
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they're happy, right?
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But there are other sides to this,
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you know, announcement that,
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hey, why isn't he a Ken?
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the doll just claims to be inspired by Juana.
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OK. I get it like the doll is cute.
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I like the little accents like,
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you know, but maybe they could have,
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people are saying maybe they could have honored a female ma instead
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maybe like or even like a Gabriel,
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you know, another icon I think they said,
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yeah, they've been Selena,
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right? Definitely. But speaking of like,
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who else do you think should be added to this like World
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of Barbies that definitely is overdue.
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That's actually a really good question.
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Who do you like Louis me I'm doing for the dudes
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you know what I know his bookie is not dead but
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imagine a bookie like Barbie that would be so cool or I
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don't know whatever. Yeah.
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Oh my God. To Tokay.
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What, Jen Jennifer Lopez or Jane Rivera Rivera.
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Ok. I got many Toya's brother.
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I mean, that would be cool.
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Jenny would be good.
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I think Jennifer Lopez has been done,
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right. Barbie doesn't have one.
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So in the, in the past there's been dolls but never
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an official Selena doll done by Barbie Mattel themselves.
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Another company made two limited edition ones since,
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but it's not like official.
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So Barbie never made a Selena.
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Ok. So there you go VT Selena.
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Who would else be a Ken?
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Imagine El Chavo like it would be so random but like I
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would love that they need to start doing those.
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They sleep, they sleep in,
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they sleep in and I know there's this account on tiktok.
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I freaking love this account.
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They do reenactments of like telenovela scenes with Barbies and the Barbies
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Like I don't know how this guy does it,
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but he makes the Barbies look just like the Soraya Montenegro.
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the, the telenovelas with them.
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So I love that and I would love to see that there's
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people that are doing this creatively on their own.
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So funny. Welcome back to La Alejo.
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What's going on? Well,
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today, we have someone that people are literally saying might be
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our first Gen Z Latino president that is what's up?
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That is, that is cool.
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Also, he's huge on tiktok like over 10 million followers and
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and he gave a speech at the DNC last week but
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it blew up. Like my family in Colombia sent it to
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who is he? If two decades ago when my parents immigrated
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to college station, Texas,
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you told them that one day their son would reach 14 million
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followers on social media,
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graduate law school and speak at the Democratic National Convention.
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They might not believe you.
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We're gonna talk to him.
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You're inspired. So we want him to rub that energy off
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on you guys. Exactly.
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Let's welcome Carlos Eduardo Esquina activists and social media sensation.
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Welcome. Carlos. Hi.
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Hi. Thank you for having me.
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Thank you so much for joining.
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We're so excited to be speaking with you today.
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Me too. I know you're all about Texas.
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You're from Texas. You live in Texas.
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I always ask Texas people in and out or what a burger
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I don't really like either to be honest.
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water burger. So I really liked it,
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but I ate it so much like when I was young and
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in high school, you know,
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so I just stopped going too much and then in and out
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I mean, it's all right.
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So I lived in Las Vegas for three years.
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I went to law school.
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There and the first time I went to in and out,
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I was like, you know,
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because of this whole thing,
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this is gonna be amazing and I mean,
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it was good but it also wasn't like,
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oh this is like life changing.
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So if I had to choose probably water burger,
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I don't go there too much either anymore.
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You got burnt out on that water burger.
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But so you mentioned you went to law school in Las
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Vegas. So tell me a little bit about that because you
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also decided to start creating.
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When did that? Yeah.
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So I grew up when I grew up in College Station,
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Texas ever since I was five years old.
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After graduating high school,
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I moved to New York to go to school at Vassar College
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I was there for three years.
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I graduated early in May of 2020.
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And basically like during that time,
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a little bit before my graduation,
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I already had like a job lined up for a nonprofit in
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Texas. But then that fell through because of the pandemic.
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And while I was figuring out what to do you know
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an organization, a nonprofit,
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another one reached out to me about doing citizenship classes online
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So I started doing them on Facebook and I was like
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hey, I should do them on tiktok too.
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So my first content on tiktok was about the citizenship classes
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those started blowing up pretty fast and,
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you know, started doing social media as a hobby.
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But,, back then I was like,
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you know, I really like doing social media but it's also
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like, at that point I didn't think I could make a
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career or anything, like,
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So, while I was figuring out what to do,
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let's go to law school.
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So I applied to law school.
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I got a scholarship to go to the University of Nevada in
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Las Vegas. And while in law school,
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that's when I started really like blowing up a lot more on
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social media. And I was like,
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well, I'm already in law school.
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I can't drop out now,
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you know, that would look really bad.
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I have to take advantage of this opportunity.
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So I found a way to balance both and yeah,
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I graduated this may and I'm still making content.
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So I think it worked out awesome.
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homeboys hustling, I'm not right now.
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I'm like, if he can do it,
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I have a question about your tiktok specifically because you do a
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lot of Spanish videos,
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right? Why do you create mainly content in Spanish?
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I just kind of like I just felt natural.
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when I started social media,
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it was kind of like,
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you know, I'm just going to share what I'm already doing
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There's already a lot of people putting stuff out there in
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English. Like I want to do something different and,
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you know, like do it in Spanish,
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but specifically for Latinos here in the United States.
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It was funny because when I gave my speech at the DNC
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there was a lot of people like,
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oh, I didn't know this guy spoke English,
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you know, so like there's this misconception that if you speak
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Spanish, you don't speak English or if you speak English,
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you don't like, I mean,
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a lot of us exist within both worlds and I think I
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don't only speak to those people who don't know English.
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I speak to a lot of people who know English but they
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like to consume stuff in Spanish or people like my,
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you know, like they know English,
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but they just feel more at home,
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more comfortable with Spanish.
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being able to bridge that gap,
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I think is really important.
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I, I feel like I naturally speak in Spanish so I
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I enjoy your content very much and we actually read somewhere
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that 20 million people watched the DNC but content creators specifically brought
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in 55 million views.
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Do you think social media is a future for this election and
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just in general for politics down the road?
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that's what I was actually looking at today.
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So it's funny because Telemundo they uploaded my speech before I
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did because obviously I was speaking and then doing everything after.
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So like on their social media on just tiktok alone,
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it has a 7.5 million views or something like that.
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It's been shared, I don't know how many times.
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And then also they shared it on Instagram and I was like
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that's awesome. So I Reshad it too.
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I was stressed about like having the subtitle and everything myself.
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oh Telemundo already did it for me.
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So like, I was looking so much.
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And then to your question of how this relates to the election
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I think more and more people are getting their information
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from social media, which is a good or bad thing depending
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on how you look at it.
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But it's the reality that we can avoid.
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And I think the Democratic Party realized that and that's why they
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invited so many of us,
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you know, quote unquote content creators and you know,
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influencers, whatever you want to cause us to be there.
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And I think that was a really a smart move on
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their part honestly. And during your speech,
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you said to be pro immigrant is to be pro America Reagan
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knew that welcoming immigrants is not a Democratic or a Republican value
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It is an American value to be pro immigrant is to
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be pro America. What do you think is the biggest problem
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facing immigrants this election year.
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I feel like the narrative has just been allowed to shift so
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far to one extreme to the point where even like,
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you know, progressives and democrats are like adopting a lot of
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these talking points. I think there are serious conversations to be
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had about like what's going on at the border or,
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you know, like border security,
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all these kinds of stuff.
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But when you completely let that overshadow the reality of the millions
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of people who are already here,
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like for over the past two years now,
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everything about immigration is the border,
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the border, the border and obviously the border is important and
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I'm, I'm not saying it's not,
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but we also can't forget the millions of people who are already
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here who have been here for many years.
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And you know, I think the biggest challenge is how do
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we shift the narrative back,
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not only push back against,
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you know, this hateful anti immigrant rhetoric,
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but propose a counter narrative that paints immigrants for what they truly
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are good people who pay taxes who contribute,
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who in their vast majority don't have a criminal record,
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don't have anything, you know,
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I mean, it's just positives all around for the country
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So how do we move back to that?
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And I pulled out that Ronald Reagan quote,
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which was actually quite interesting cause I was like,
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you know, Ronald Reagan is not someone who I really agree
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with on a lot of stuff.
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But even then you look at Republicans previous in the past,
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their stances on immigration were night and day compared to what we're
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seeing right now. So,
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like, it's crazy to think that like Ronald Reagan was more
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pro immigrant than some Democrats nowadays.
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You know, like one thing we have to accept and especially
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when we say, you know,
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the United States is the greatest country on earth.
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As long as you are the quote unquote,
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greatest country on earth,
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people are gonna want to come here,
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then that's not a bad thing.
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You know, why do people want to come to the United
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States instead of going to China or Russia?
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Because the United States is what it is.
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So we have to accept one that people are always gonna wanna
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come here that said,
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how can we create these legal pathways for them to be able
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to come without having to risk their lives?
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I mean, just think about it.
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If someone is paying a coyote,
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10 $15,000 to be able to smuggle them across the border,
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you don't think they would pay the US government the same amount
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to be able to come here legally work here,
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Like, so why don't we look at those solutions that will
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actually reduce the number of people at the border?
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So I agree with all parties that what's going on on the
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border, right? Now is a real problem and we can't
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ignore it. I just think the solutions I propose,
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which I find to be the most logical are very different than
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anything else that's being proposed.
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you know, taking this anti you know,
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immigrant super hard line deport everyone approach like OK,
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legal channels that are excessive,
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that are good for the United States that are good for immigrants
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that are good for everyone involved.
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And that's what I want to shift the narrative back towards the
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issues, not the problems,
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instead of the solutions that you know,
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each side is proposing.
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but I appreciate that.
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I really appreciate that.
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I'm like, I want to hear more like this is fascinating
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to me, these sound like break it down for me because
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I'm not that, you know,
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in it. But if you explain it like that,
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I think that more people would actually,
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oh, that is a valid point.
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what are your aspirations for the future?
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I mean, anything in the realm of politics,
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I know, I know people,
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people like. So it's funny because every time that happens,
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people have this whole argument of whether I can run for president
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or not. It's actually funny.
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So obviously I want to be involved in politics.
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Like I think it's cool being able to be a speak at
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the DNC and meet with politicians.
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you can have a seat in the room from like a community
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perspective and like, you know,
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when you have that power behind you,
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then instead of like,
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you know, the other thing is too,
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like, once you actually go into,
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you know, a position or you run for something and you
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like, affiliate with like a party,
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hard line and everything.
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you know, you maybe aren't able to speak as much as
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you want to or you have to like,
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you know, a lot of the work that I care about
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is not necessarily what's always being talked about,
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you know, in congress,
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So it is difficult and obviously that takes away time from what
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you really care about,
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which is doing that community help.
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because you never know what can happen.
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I think the pandemic,
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you know, five years ago you asked me,
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do you ever think you're gonna be a,
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a content creator? I'd be like,
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no, that's really stupid.
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But now I'm a content creator,
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you never know. But at the same time,
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what I really enjoy is like working with people,
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you know, and spending that time in the community.
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I mean, we appreciate the time and we can keep
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but we appreciate the breakdowns you gave us throughout this this
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call and obviously you want to say people your way and show
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you love and you know,
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check out what you're doing.
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Do you mind plugging your socials?
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Follow you up, Twitter and then all the other platforms?
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Carlos a vote, November 8th.
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Thank you so so much Carlos for joining us.
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We really appreciate it.
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Oh, yeah, I think it's November 5th,
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right? Is that the election?
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Oh my gosh. I remember last time November 8th was last
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time vote. November 5th.
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Carlos. Shout out Carlos.
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We back checking me and my dates.
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Hey, Alejo, I am at the group of Frontera concert
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You have Foma but I guess who's here,
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baby? It's a grandma takeover.
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We're going to get lit.
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The primos are out baby,
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daddy life but it's ok.
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Grab my takeover, grab my takeover,
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grab my takeover. Hey,
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Have you been in the Calle yet?
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I'm not for the shoes but we are here.
21:39
So who are we going to talk to?
21:44
What's going on here?
21:45
How did you lock this queen down the Feria?
21:50
Where's the Louis bag?
21:51
We're gonna talk to Grupo Fora in a bit.
21:55
What kind of do they like?
22:18
She's gonna cry. Let's get her,
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get your, get your head.
22:24
Who broke your heart.
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Should I out here out here if you out here of 10
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years broke my heart,
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girl, my baby daddy,
22:35
you probably won't watch this.
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Are you guys together still or?
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Not absolutely not. You deserve better.
23:08
VPD Show because we go to the after party.
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We got that. We go to the after party.
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We're so excited. So where's the after party?
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Like I'm gonna hit him up.
23:26
Let's get it. Let's get it.
23:28
So we made it backstage.
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We're screaming. We're,
23:34
we're hollering. You did?
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Great. What are you talking about?
23:41
How do you feel right now on this?
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What's that show? The adrenaline is pumping right now at the
23:45
top right now. Where's the after party at here right here
23:50
We're going to Disney World.
23:53
I kinda wanna send a message to my ex boyfriend,
24:03
Bano. Well, it's likely to get married in Vegas.
24:16
Who's the lightweight, lightweight.
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Your last meal ever?
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What are you eating?
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We gotta wait, we talk about water burger in N Out
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We messed up. We compared it to In N Out Can
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We should have compared it to mcdonald's In and Out sucks
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Hey, where's the dude?
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That was so much fun.
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Honestly, they're amazing.
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Such great vibes. They're like familia de Verdad mis primos.
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And dude, the concert was so good to my fucking boys
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I mean, it's a good show.
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It was such a good show.
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You guys don't miss out on group of fronteras.
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Jugando Canno pa and another Pero back to you guys in the
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studio, back to you guys see you,
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dude. Honestly, they vibe,
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they're the primos now.
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Like I thought they recognize this too.
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Yeah. Yeah. I'm like,
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yeah. And they're like,
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They already knew us.
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They're nice. They did amazing.
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Like, go watch your concert guys.
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They're amazing. Maybe I'll go because they didn't take me.
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All right guys. Well,
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this has been Lincoln Bio.
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I'm Jenny and I'm Alejandro and we'll see you guys on the
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