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“The Casagrandes Movie” director Miguel Puga and writer Lalo Alcaraz discuss representing Michoacán’s Purépecha community, influencer Robbie Arroyo endorses reggaeton’s curative properties, and Chicano Batman explains why Spanish is their love language.
Show transcript
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2000. Hi guys.
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Welcome back to Lincoln Bio.
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I'm Jenny and it is Friday.
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So let's, huh?
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Yeah. Heyday guys.
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so let's get into it.
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We're gonna be talking about opening day and how it's gonna hurt
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your pockets. And a man has a pig kidney Starbucks recall
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And adultery is illegal.
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And also we have your mom's diet is why your face looks
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like that. Exactly.
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The Casa Grande movie with writer and director Robbie Arroyo kicks it
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with us and Chicano Batman slides through.
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Let's get into it.
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So Nestle USA is recalling over 440,000 Starbucks branded mugs due to
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customers, reports of burns and cuts from using the product.
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That is a lot of mugs.
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That's a lot of pissed off Karens.
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Oh, yeah, a lot of pissed off Karens that have
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their daily Starbucks. I mean,
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when I saw the number,
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Jenny, honestly, all I thought was like,
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that's 440 lawsuits. Oh,
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yeah, 440,000, 440,000 lawsuits.
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And I might need to buy a mug to join that,
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buy a mug. So the ceramic mugs coated with metal and
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bearing the Starbucks logo were part of four gift sets sold during
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the 2023 holiday season.
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So if you got one as a gift,
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that shit don't count,
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you can return it.
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Let them know the situation.
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So the US Consumer Product Safety Commission reported 12 incidents involving Starbucks
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branded mugs, overheating or breaking when microwaved or filled with hot
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liquid. Some of these injuries include severe burns blisters and one
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apparently required medical attention.
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So these mugs are taking people out.
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Oh my God, imagine they say,
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you know, just like I just wonder if they have the
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not microwave safe or something.
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No say. But if you got one of these mugs return
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it please. A man in Massachusetts became the first human to
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receive a kidney transplant from a genetically modified pig.
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Wow. So 62 year old Rick Sleman who had kidney failure
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underwent the successful four hour operation on Saturday at Massachusetts General Hospital
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Scientists are developing genetically engineered pigs to make more organs available
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for human transplants while people often wait years for organ transplants,
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this could change that.
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So previously, doctors performed pig kidney transplants on two patients with
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no brain function. They also performed picked heart transplants on two
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other patients who died shortly after Sleman is recovering extremely well.
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In his case, he would have to wait 5 to 6
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years for a human kidney and his doctor said he would not
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have been able to survive it.
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The man's pig kidney was developed by biotech company E Genesis.
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It at its genes with a technology called CRISPR so that animal
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organs become compatible with human bodies.
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So I'm like thinking like this organ that's inside this man,
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this pig kidney if someone eats his pig kidney is that still
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considered cannibalism because it was part of like,
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like it was inside him.
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Wait a minute, it's,
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it's like half cannibalism because to get to the kidney there.
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Well, I don't know.
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That's a random thought.
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No. Like we really,
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really, it would be a case by case scenario because it
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could be a mix of cannibalism or just being a meat lover
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I don't know why that,
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that random thought just went in my head anyways disregard what I
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just said. Hasn't.
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Yeah. Anyways next story,
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that story, Jenny.
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Imagine your mom's hot Cheeto diet during her pregnancy is the re
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fuck. Is it worth it?
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Is the reason why you have a big ass head?
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I have a big ass head,
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not you. I mean,
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it's not your fault.
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It's the diet. So a recent study found that a mother's
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diet during pregnancy could affect her baby's facial feature.
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What did my mom pinches Platanos?
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She wasn't a planting.
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That's why you're built like a banana.
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No, just kidding.
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It was bad. I'm joking.
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I do like one too.
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The gene complex M torque one is in charge of shaping a
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baby's face in the womb.
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Researchers found that a high protein diet can enhance this gene.
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No, not that gene,
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this gene and influence a baby's face shape.
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Wow. So you're telling me when I'm ready to have a
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kid, I gotta be like,
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you gotta be on this type of diet because I want him
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to look like this.
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I'm, I guess so that,
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I mean, that's what,
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that's what studies are showing.
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I want in and out baby.
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Fuck it. This includes the length and width of the baby's
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nose, their jawline cheeks and skull.
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So this bump right here on my nose.
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What the fuck was my mom eating?
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These changes are subtle but distinct.
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For example, in pregnant mice and fish,
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high protein diets gave the offspring larger jaws and the thicker nasal
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cartilage. So so all that is why Trump is an
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orange because they probably had like oranges,
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the facial features, it's orange,
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it made their features more pronounced jetty.
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I'm so sorry. These are the only tickets I could afford
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Yo, I need two beers.
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Here's, here's $100.
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I know that's how much it costs.
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What are you guys doing here?
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What up guys? My favorite time of the year,
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it's opening day. Let's go.
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It took me like three hours to get home last night,
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but you know, whatever it's all worth it.
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So, you know how expensive,
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you know, going to baseball games can get right,
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especially in Dodger Stadium.
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It is the Miami Marlins got our backs.
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What, what did they do?
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So the Miami Marlins have introduced the all you can eat seat
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ticket. Guess how much is price that?
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How much? $52?
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So you're telling me you buy a ticket to the Miami Marlins
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game and it's $52 and all the food and everything is included
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hot dogs, chili dogs,
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nachos, cheeseburgers, popcorn,
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peanuts cookies. You fucking name it is all included in that
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ticket. You can't get a better deal anywhere else.
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Like come on, if you're from Miami,
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you have no excuse to not take a girl out on a
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date except that it's not with alcohol.
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I wouldn't even tell her it's all you can eat.
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I'll be like keep getting what you want.
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I got it. Well,
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except not it, it's alcohol.
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Does it cover alcohol?
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No, it doesn't cover all.
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Ok. So Jenny,
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how, how are the Dodgers looking compared to the Miami?
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Well, the average price of a seat at the Dodger game
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is $109 per seat and a Dodger dog price is seven bucks
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and beer is 16 bucks.
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And that's a Agua dude,
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$16 for that shit.
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You need like three jobs to go to a Dodger game and
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you're not even counting parking,
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parking is like 35 $40.
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So, I mean,
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don't get me started with New York though.
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The average ticket price this season is looking like around 100 and
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$30 per seat. A hot dog price is $3.
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That's not bad. And a beer price is 12 bucks,
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you know, not bad.
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It's all right. You know,
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just gotta work for two weeks but I still prefer that,
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that all you can eat.
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Yeah, I go to,
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I go just for it,
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you know, Dos Yankees,
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all these other teams like take notes like or when are the
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Dodgers playing in Miami?
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Yo, Miami send us tickets,
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stop playing. So you know the Netflix stamp is a big
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deal, Jenny. Today we have director Miguel Puga and writer
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Lalo Alcaraz of their new animated movie,
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the Casa Grandes. Hey,
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what's up guys, Miguel?
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What inspired you to become a cartoonist?
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And how, how has being a Latino influenced your work?
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Like was there a particular cartoon that influenced you?
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I, I mean,
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I, I always drew as a kid and I think the
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show that really inspired me was the Charlie Brown specials and seen
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Bill Melendez's name on there.
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And that's the first time I ever see a Latino name on
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a cartoon. And I used to love watching cartoons.
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So when I saw that and see my family gather around for
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Thanksgiving or Christmas or Las Posadas and just watching all those Christmas
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specials or, or holiday specials with.
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So I wanted to do like I wanted,
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I wanted to entertain and I knew I wanted to make cartoons
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and that's what inspired me and also with the Casa Grandes,
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my family inspired me so much to kind of evolve these
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characters more into like my tia,
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my cousins, my primos.
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It's funny how we all kind of like grew up similar,
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you know, like all those Latinos.
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And Lalo,
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how do you balance representing Latino culture while appealing to a diverse
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audience and how real can you get?
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Well with our, our when,
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when we had the series of the Casa Grandes,
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I think we pushed the limits of you know,
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how real we can get.
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kids programming has its limits,
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you know, it has lots of rules and you can't show
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a kid sticking a fork and a you know,
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in the plug in the wall,
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you know, and but we could kind of got
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away with a few things that were pretty funny like
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Miguel's family, you know,
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stories and my stories and everyone,
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we all have crazy families and we all have funny stories
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And i it's,
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I don't, I don't,
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I don't see how a showing a Mexican American family,
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a Chicano family, a Latino family.
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I is problematic. Unlike some people in Hollywood,
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what changes have you seen in how the industry includes Latino voices
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and stories also. How's it going in Hollywood for you guys
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Hey, Miguel should talk about the crew.
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Yeah, we, we wanted to represent the family by representing
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who we hired at,
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I am proud to announce that we use a Mexican animation studio
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something that you don't really hear about in this industry,
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especially in the animation industry.
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We went and I fought to get a Mexican animation studio in
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Guadalajara mighty animation. And we also use a composer who is
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Mexican and we flew out to Rome Leon and Monterey and
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recorded the orchestra there along with some pica musicians and choir and
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it, it was everything I ever wanted to do and especially
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with the writers, everyone that poured their heart into this
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this movie,
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I think other than this movie,
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there's maybe like 33 or four other Latino projects out there.
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So we need more content because,
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you know, we,
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we're the Latinos are a powerhouse in Hollywood.
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They, they watch movies,
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they, they buy the content so we need more representation and
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it, and it does matter to have it.
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We know, we know we all read that story every year
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about, oh, a new study came out about how Latinos
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are underrepresented. That story is 30 years old and running it
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because nobody does anything about it,
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right? We're so underrepresented that yesterday,
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we got included in the article about the Gordita chronicles.
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Like right at the end it said,
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and there's about four other shows going on right now and,
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and this movie and that's how,
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you know, lame,
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you know, the situation is and we need we have
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the talent instead of just over indexing and buying 24% of the
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movie tickets. And,
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you know, and while we're 19% of the population,
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you know, we,
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we should be getting a little more representation,
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right? And, you know,
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we're like, brand loyal,
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right? You know,
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we buy the same brand for our whole lifetime.
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I don't know why people aren't capitalizing on this.
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They are, but they're not giving back to us.
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I agree. It's like almost as if we're like an afterthought
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where it's like the priorities are so just not there.
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And we'll show up,
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right. We'll show up.
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Yeah. Yeah, we pull up for sure.
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And we got big families too.
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So it was like 1515 other people grandes.
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Exactly. Oh, well,
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thank you guys so much.
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We really appreciate you talking more about the Casa Grande movie.
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So where can people follow you?
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And where can people watch the movie?
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Well, people can watch it on Netflix.
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It's only on Netflix and it's fun for the entire familia.
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It's not just a kid movie because there,
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there's mother, daughter themes in the movie that are,
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are made. All my,
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the cry when they watched it,
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all my cousins. I was like,
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that reminds me of my,
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my, my daughter and stuff.
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So it, it's always great and you can follow me on
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Instagram under Puga Vida and I just keep waiting.
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I'm posting more art and more behind the scenes stuff from the
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movie. just to share the amazing art from all the
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artists that we got to work with and we're still burning up
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the top 10 on Netflix.
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And we're, I heard we're number one in Mexico or
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Latin America. Reports are coming in and we're number seven in
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movies and Netflix and the number two in kids' movie and
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like Puga pointed out the other day,
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we only have 1/10 of the budget of the number one movie
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which rhymes with Super Mario Brothers.
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And and we're right there next,
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next to them, but you can follow me on
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I'm everywhere man. You can't,
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you can't throw a rock in the internet and I'm not on
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that site, you know,
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so I can't wait to watch the movie.
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Yes, because the trailer got a lo thank you guys so
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much. Take care,
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guys, take care.
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Hey, are you depressed?
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Well, we have the perfect person here with us to help
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you through this. We have Robbie Arroyo.
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Thank you. I'm good.
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Thank you for having me.
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Thank you for coming on.
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So I wanted to ask what is the best music to dance
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to when dealing with depression?
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Well, I honestly think that reggaeton is probably my favorite.
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Shake it all off,
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shake it, you have to,
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you know, the violin,
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you know. other than that,
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you know, we have we also have to,
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you know, some pop music,
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we have some afrobeats as well.
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That's true. A little ass shaking can really make me like
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absolutely. So you said on tiktok that you use
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reggaeton as therapy? What do you think makes reggaeton?
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So healing, I think.
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Well, first of all,
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I grew up in Puerto Rico.
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So like growing up,
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that's all I listen to.
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So it, it's not only a nostalgic but also something
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that like is fun.
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Like you said, you,
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you gotta throw some mass here and there,
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you gotta throw some mass here and there.
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And so that's something that like,
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I don't know, like putting on your headphones on your home
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alone and you just let go and you're just like,
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OK, I just felt coffee is not that serious or hey
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I just did,
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this is not that serious.
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Like you just kind of like re center and it's just,
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I think sometimes we take ourselves too seriously and sometimes you just
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gotta let loose and shakes.
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That is so true.
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Sometimes you gotta let loose and shake your ass.
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I'm gonna definitely use that.
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So when did you start dancing alone in your room?
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And is it a memory from like your childhood or something you
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started doing later in life?
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That's a good question.
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So I think growing up,
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I was like this like shy kid outside,
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but like in my room,
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I had a TV.
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And I was like,
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fully into Tumblr, fully into like listen to music videos.
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So, like, I would watch like reggaeton videos,
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but I would also watch like Beyonce videos just like we had
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like this huge mirror that my grandma had and we would just
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I would just dance and it would like,
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I would close my door and it would be like my moment
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of peace and yeah,
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and they still did it.
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like it was something that was like therapeutic to this day that
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I love that too because a lot of people don't know,
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but there's dance therapy.
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Do you know? Did you see,
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I have heard of it since my doing tiktok.
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But before that I was like,
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I just thought I was a weird person in my room.
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No, no, no,
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no. There's actual like dance therapy sessions.
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I remember when I went to Colorado to visit my cousin,
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she was like, hey,
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we're gonna go to dance therapy.
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Like, what is that?
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I just landed. I want from a red eye and you
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want me to do dance therapy and,
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and we went in this like circle and there was all these
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people and they're like,
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just dance, feel it and,
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and people were crying and just dancing.
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There was no cory like it was just whatever you felt,
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you know, it was like the music,
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anything they would put anything.
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So it, it,
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it's funny that you mentioned that and I can totally see that
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And have you tried to get any of your relatives to
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treat their mental health through dance or music?
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I, I have but not intentionally.
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It's just been through kind of,
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you know, me posting and then reposting it and then kind
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of going, going to visit them and realizing like they wanna
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go out dancing or like,
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I see my little niece,
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like, like she's assuming and like from the videos she's seen
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So I, I feel like it's been like a not
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intentional, but I love that.
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It's, it's bleeding into everyone's life because I think it's a
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beautiful thing as like dance and expression is,
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is, is lovely.
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It is and give us a new,
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like give us new song recommendations like,
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like Sad Pero songs or I don't know if I can give
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you s well, is there,
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there is there but I feel like right now I've been listening
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to at the gym is the call Cheese New or like the
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whole album is just like 10 out of 10.
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Like I can listen to that like on repeat literally just like
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I literally had in the house just like the album on repeat
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And my partner was there and I was like,
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OK, I think we,
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we get it and I'm like,
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you know, we can play it a few more times like
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I still can hear it.
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Yeah, I love,
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I love Kelly. She's amazing.
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So you've watched Beyonce live.
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Yeah. Oh, no,
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you're fine. Like,
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what is your favorite concert you've been to?
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I, I will have to say it was between.
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I have actually, I have to say Beyonce,
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Beyonce and I grew up listening to her my whole life and
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you'd think someone who's like,
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40 would give you like a good show but like,
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nothing that you're gonna,
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like, remember. But it was one of those shows that
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I think it was like our best concert in like my lifetime
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I think, not just hype,
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it's genuinely like her vocal ability,
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dancing all of it.
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But then I would also say I went to Rosalia,
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I saw her three times within like a few months because
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she's also someone who performs and kills it,
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kills it, dancing and singing vocally unreal.
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And I think like music is something that's like,
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not only like, it helps me get through things,
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but it also inspires me for new things and like what the
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world can be or what things can be.
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So, yeah, I agree.
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I definitely agree. It plays a very important part in all
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our lives. Yeah,
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thank you so much,
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Robbie. We appreciate you talking about how,
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how music can help with your mental health and just make
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things better all around.
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So thank you for coming by.
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Thank you for having me.
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Of course, I'll talk about this.
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You're like, always talk about this.
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Yo, what's up guys?
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And we're here with L A Legends Chicano Batman.
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Let's go fellas. So the new album is Sexy.
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And honestly, you guys,
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I don't know if I told you guys,
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I moved from New York and I had my boys from out
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here, put me on to you guys and damn,
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you guys got it going on fellas.
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Real. So,
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where did you guys record the album?
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Why is it important to switch up the studios and we recorded
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at Sunset Sound in Hollywood.
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And you know,
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if it was up to us,
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we would be like,
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well, how much does it cost today to record there?
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Well, how much is the budget?
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How much is that?
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How much is this?
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But this is for the first time.
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We didn't have any say in this John Congleton,
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once we chose him as producer,
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he arranged all that.
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And then, so I asked him,
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I was like, why did you choose to do it here
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And he's like,
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I mean, we're gonna make a great album,
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you guys deserve this.
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And I think that was the first time any producer had made
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us feel like we deserve the best,
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you know, and he's just like,
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we're not trying to do anything less.
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And I think that put me like in this,
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in this, the king's chair,
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are there any influences that would surprise us that you guys might
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have? Vira Vira,
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it's my guy from Marina right.
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Hunter S Thompson. Not bad.
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I mean, we're just talking like,
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I'm a big merengue guy.
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So Merengue and the base is like,
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is those Aio Dorados guys from the eighties?
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All that base work is,
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is really compelling and it moves,
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it moves, it moves the world.
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You know what I'm saying?
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I'm reading fear and loathing in Las Vegas again and it's just
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fantastic. Every, like the way Hunter and Thompson just flows
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on those is like bars,
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bro, like every sentence is gold.
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Does your writing style change for English versus Spanish?
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Because for me sometimes like,
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you know, Spanish,
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you could just, I'm hungry and Ean Tengo Ambre,
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you know, you could add feeling behind it.
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So does, is there a difference between both when you're writing
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in English or Spanish?
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For me, it's,
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it's Spanish is my love language.
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You know, it's my first language.
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So, you know,
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when I'm saying something in Spanish,
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I'm talking to my family.
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You know what I'm saying?
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It's so easy to rock and a minor in Spanish because it's
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got feeling, you know,
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like, just, just like you're talking about,
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it's like, you know,
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you're gonna put queso fresco on a tortilla or American cheese,
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you choose, they're both good but one's better.
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All right guys, parallel is dope and you guys do it
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How, how did that song come about that?
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That song was a,
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a process, a real process.
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I would go to his house,
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he's at the studio and we would just work and we're just
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like, let's try,
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like,, writing lyrics together and,
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yeah, it just turned into,
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like, well, today we didn't actually write anything,
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but we talked for three hours about old beef,
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you know. You know,
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and then you come back,
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all right, you know,
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come back another day,
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another two hours go by and then we write for 30 minutes
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you know. and it was,
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it was just the kind of process you wanna have with anybody
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in your life just to talk about the old resentment,
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you know, and the old stuff that,
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that's just callous for no reason.
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Paralyze was a reason for us to open up to start smoothing
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out that callous and be like,
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yo, these don't have to be there.
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Freedom may free, don't say well,
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we're both passionate fuck.
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So like, you know,
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and, and about this project and we've been doing it for
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like 20 years. So it's like band members shit,
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you know, and it's just like we have different visions through
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different people. So there's always been a lot of like competition
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Like we're always butted heads,
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you know, like,
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you know, and yeah,
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we're brother, brother shit,
25:03
you know, and,
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and, but we've grown from that too,
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like, like records like cycles of existential rhyme.
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Like that was a lot of,
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but yo, it's like what we've always been,
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it's almost like fine tuning each other too.
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Like, like they say friction makes babies.
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It's true. You know,
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it was crazy because we got,
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we put ourselves in a situation where I was like,
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oh, I'm gonna mess you up right now,
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bro. And then like,
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and then, and then I would say a lyric and I'm
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like, hey, bro,
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it's how I used to feel in the past.
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But like, what do you think this line?
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And I'm like, I'm like,
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sorry, bro. I don't really matter,
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you know, and he said no way,
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I'm gonna fuck you up right now too,
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you know. No,
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it wasn't like that.
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He said that it was like,
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no, no, no,
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no, we both remember it differently just so,
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you know, we both remember we're both there but two versions
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I've heard you say the interviews.
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I'm like, I know you said that you came up with
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freedom ain't free. Used to say it used to say that
25:56
all the time, all the time on the road.
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I'm the one who brought her up in the session.
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I was like, freedom ain't free.
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Of course you said it like he would always be pissed because
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like, freedom ain't free because I'd be like freedom is free
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It's some, it's some bullshit,
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you know, like on the road,
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we're already tired of each other.
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It's like there's some freedom.
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Freedom is free. We're like,
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you know, you guys getting the real,
26:15
real, you guys are getting the real,
26:16
real now it's like peeling back the curtain and this,
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this experience is not unique to our band.
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A lot of bands have scenarios like this because you're collaborating
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you're highly creative,
26:26
highly individual and you're trying to see eye to eye and it's
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part of the process,
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you know, and sometimes people just don't talk about it or
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know about it, but it happens with all the groups that
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I know and love.
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I know that for sure.
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Yeah, absolutely. And you know,
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being Raza, there's the expression,
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you know, la Ropa,
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que la and casa.
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Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
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And we're like, no,
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we're gonna watch it right here in front of everybody.
26:47
You got brothers, you're fighting,
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you're in a band,
26:50
you're fighting, no one's gonna,
26:52
everyone's fighting, you know what I'm saying?
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But it's how you come to grips.
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So I heard y'all,
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y'all, you guys are gonna be on tour.
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What are you guys most excited about?
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There's a couple of new places we're going to playing in
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Arkansas. Never, never been there before or played a show
27:07
there before. But we'll,
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we'll be in, you know,
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all the big cities,
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New York City, Brooklyn Steel,
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the Forum in Los Angeles.
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The forum is wild.
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What's the full circle moment for you guys?
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I mean full circle.
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The first show I saw at the forum,
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I was like 18.
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It was happened to be the chili peppers.
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We're talking about the chili peppers.
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My friend was like,
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hey, my older brother has an extra ticket.
27:31
You want it? 20 bucks.
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Let's go. So I was broke,
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I was a college student.
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So I went, spent my last 20 bucks.
27:37
I had that week and we had like the nosebleed seats,
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you know, we were way up there and it was amazing
27:43
It was incredible.
27:43
The energy up there was amazing and it's just crazy to be
27:46
from the top, top last row to now we're on the
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stage. It's pretty amazing.
27:52
Full circle moment for me is the forum was where I
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saw my very first concert.
27:57
So I saw Metallica,
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but I went with my cousin Letti,
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my brother Vivi and my Patino.
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And just the other day,
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my Pao calls me.
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He's just like, he's a huge fan.
28:08
Always supported me in music,
28:09
you know, he's always seen it in me and always supported
28:11
me in that. And he called me and he's like
28:13
hey, you guys made it not Tego P not is
28:18
you made it, you,
28:18
you, you know,
28:19
you, you're already hitting those spots.
28:20
So it's like, you know,
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yeah, for me,
28:24
it's like, you know,
28:25
making music and writing songs has been a very personal thing.
28:29
So like, you know,
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I'll just be in like I was,
28:32
I learned how to play guitar sing and shit in like high
28:35
school basically. So I would play in my backyard and then
28:38
my neighbor would be like you saw,
28:41
you know, and so I,
28:42
I grew up with a lot of that shit like growing up
28:45
like I never felt accepted anywhere but yo,
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I'm fucking drop your mics,
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baby. I'm the forum,
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bro. With my,
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where's that whore? Where's,
28:56
where's his name? You like,
28:58
can you guys break down a favorite lyric on a song
29:01
on the album? Do you have a favorite lyric?
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So anything stand out from,
29:05
from earlier when I was listening to,
29:07
to, to, to,
29:08
to parallel you, you,
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you my favorite are beautiful daughter.
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Oh, it really struck me how raw and honest you were
29:38
you know, and I think that set a precedent for
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everything else we're gonna do.
29:41
You know, it says let's just keep this as the standard
29:43
Then, you know,
29:44
if we're being raw,
29:44
honest, then just keep being raw,
29:45
honest. You know,
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we ask you to listen,
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we want you to listen and I love,
29:54
oh, come on my kids now,
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you know, it's like I wish I was there more.
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We're going on tour,
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you know what I'm saying?
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Like we gotta go on tour and,
30:05
and you know, our kids gotta stay behind and you know
30:07
this is, this is real life,
30:09
Chicano Batman at the forum for the kids,
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for the kids. All right guys,
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appreciate you guys pulling up,
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man. I can't wait to see you guys in the forum
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You got them back,
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man, guys. Follow us.
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Well, that does it for this episode of Lincoln Bio.
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I'm Jenny and Happy Easter.
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To you guys. I mean,
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it's gonna rain all weekend.
30:47
So you're gonna have to probably hide the hue tos inside your
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house, but enjoy with your family.
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Stay safe. Bye guys.
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See you guys next time.