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Ana Navarro on Why Everything is Political and BLEEP!

April 1, 2026
Ana Navarro sits down with us to unpack what Latinidad looks like in America in 2026. As she launches her new podcast BLEEP!, she opens up about the upcoming elections, reflects on moments with Bad Bunny and Karol G, and responds to Dolores Huerta’s recent revelations about Cesar Chavez.
Show transcript
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We all have a voice,
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and those of us who have a vote must use it to
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improve our community. I hope to get to a day where
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I can say to you,
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ah, you know,
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we don't have to be political about the arts.
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We don't have to be political in our songs.
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We don't have to be political in our speeches.
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I, I strive for that.
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But umama, noestamojayengeo momento,
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that's not where we are right now.
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Anna, it is such a pleasure to have you on.
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How did we get here?
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How are you? I'm thrilled to be on with you.
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You bring me so much joy.
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You have no idea how much I have been following you,
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and so it's a pleasure for me as well.
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Oh, that means so much coming from you.
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Let's get started with your Instagram bio.
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It reads, Nicaraguan by birth,
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American by choice, Miamian by luck.
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How have those three identities shaped how you take up space?
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Well, you know,
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I think the fact that I'm from Miami,
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that I've lived in Miami now 47 years.
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And Miami is one of these places in the United States that
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because it has been built by immigrants,
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right? The first,
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the wave of Cubans that came in 1960s and
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the Venezuelans, Nicaraguans,
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Colombians, Haitians, it's a place where you can be incredibly
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comfortable being a hyphenated American,
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being Nicaraguan-American, being Mexican-American,
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being Colombian. American.
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You don't have to apologize for it.
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You don't have to give explanations for it.
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You can just be it.
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And I love somebody that I heard say the other day,
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you know, it was Becky G actually.
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She said, I'm not 50% this,
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I'm not 50% that.
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I am 100% this and 100% that,
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and that's, and I think,
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Miami gives you the space to be that.
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You can speak Spanglish,
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you can speak English,
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you can speak Spanish.
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actually, I feel a little sorry for you if
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you live in Miami and you don't speak Spanish because you're missing
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a hell of a lot.
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We talk all sorts of music,
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you, you know,
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have a diversity of friends.
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It's a place where diversity is seen as a virtue by most
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of us, not as a deficiency.
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Absolutely, we were just out there in Miami for the World
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Baseball Classic, actually,
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and our team had me do an idea where I was testing
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people's Spanish speaking abilities,
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and I told them,
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you guys, tool mundaquia la espanol.
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If anything, they're gonna hit us.
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With another language they know what they're talking about.
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Imagine that there were 3 people that I had to,
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I had to do the opposite.
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I'm like, you know what,
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let's, let's, what is it in English then?
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And, and we pivoted,
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but I love Miami always,
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and I'm born and raised in LA.
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But I do feel a sense of home in Miami because I
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see me everywhere I go.
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And who are you rooting for at the at the,
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baseball classic?
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Well, originally Colombia,
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but we were eliminated before I even landed in Miami.
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So then I, I went for Dominican Republic,
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and then they got eliminated.
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So Venezuela loud and proud,
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quiorguyo paratolo Latinos. It was a great night,
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you know, Venezuelans have gone through so much,
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not just lately, but for 25 years of oppression and dictatorship
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And this crazy transition that's going on now,
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so I was so happy for Venezuela that they got this moment
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of just sheer joy to celebrate.
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Likewise. You touched on it,
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but growing up, did you see Nicaraguan representation in media that
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inspired you, or did you feel like you had to carve
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out your own path?
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I still don't see Nicaraguan representation in media.
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there's not that many Nicaraguans out there,
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and,, which is for,
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for me why alliances and,
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and friendships and collaborations amongst Latinos means so much.
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Because there's big groups of Latinos in the United States with representation
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in media, in politics,
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and business, and so many different aspects,
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right? So you've got Mexican-Americans and you've got Cuban-Americans,
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and you've got Puerto Ricans,
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and, and, and those are,
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I would say the big three groups.
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And then there's, there's the rest of us,
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and I think that's why it's so important,
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why I so appreciate.
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The Latinos that have opened doors for me,
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despite the fact that they may not be Nicaraguans,
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despite the fact that they may not be political exiles,
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despite the fact that we may disagree on politics,
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that we may have had different experiences growing up,
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but that have opened up the doors,
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and I think it's really important that we as Latinos do that
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not get caught up on the Nicaraguan,
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Colombian, Venezuelan, and Guatemala.
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Val and Salvadorian of it because,
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and I'll tell you why,
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because we can all be very proud of where we come from
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but people who are racist against Latinos,
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they don't give a shit.
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If you are from Colombia or if you're from Cuba or if
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you're from Mexico or if you're from Nicaragua or you're from Venezuela
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if you're from Uruguay,
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you know, they,
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they, they basically lump us all in,
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in one big blob,
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so we should fight back as one big alliance.
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Comonodijo like Bad Bunny did in the in in the Super
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Bowl halftime. Everybody,
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so I, I really,
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the older I get,
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the more I appreciate that alliance,
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amongst Latinos,
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and we have to stop competing with each other because when one
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of us rises, all of us rises.
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I appreciate your insight on that as a Colombian.
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American, I agree there's the big 3 and then there's the
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rest of us, and they kind of all assume we are
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all one. That's what they see,
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and we do have to hold our hands and fight back together
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I can imagine that you've experienced moments of being the Latina
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in a room, depending on the space you're in,
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of course you actually got to interview Carol G on The View
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How does it feel to see more.
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Us enter these rooms.
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First, I love Carol G,
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and I'm very excited.
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I think I'm gonna see her,
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this Friday.
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She's got a charity event in Miami.
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She's got,,
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a foundation that does wonderful things for children,
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and,, and I think I'm gonna head out there
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and, and support her this weekend.
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And didn't she look beautiful in that Oscars after party?
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I mean, that dress didn't look like you could sit in
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it, but it looked,
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she's looking gorgeous.,
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yeah, look, for me,
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it's really important to have a platform where I talk about our
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perspectives and where I talk about the issues that are affecting us
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It's really important,
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particularly at this time,
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where we are seeing what we're seeing with immigration and the attacks
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on immigrants. To be able to tell the story of what
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being an immigrant in this country is like,
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to be able to tell the positive stories and highlight the abuses
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I wanna be on The View or on CNN or on
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my podcast talking about the little five year old Liam Ramos who
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got used as bait in Minneapolis by ICE.
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I wanna be able to talk about the Mariachi boys who got
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detained in the Rio Grande Valley.
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I want to be able to bring up those stories.
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I want to be able to pronounce those last names,
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to call out our heroes,
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people like Congressman Joaquin Castro,
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who is busting his ass on a,
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on a case by case basis to get some of these unjust
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detentions ended. And people released,
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and I, I,
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you know, and I also wanna be able to celebrate us
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I wanna be able to celebrate Bad Bunny and say it
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like you should say,
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which is Bad Bunny,
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not Bad Bunny. Bad body.
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Bad Bo. I wanna be able to talk about Carol G
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I wanna bring Carlos Vives to The View and have him
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play, play his guitar.
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Can I tell you the Carlos Vives story,
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please,, I'm seated.
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Tell me more. Carlos Vives is our,
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like, he has our national anthem,
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Cii cuenta memasbor.
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I, I adore him.
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He is one of the nicest,
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best people in the world,
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and he was, and I had asked him to come to
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the view because one of the things I like to do.
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Is,, you know,
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it's one thing to have people in front of the camera,
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but you also need to have people,
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behind the camera because the bookings are made by people
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behind the cameras. The,
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the choices of the topics are,
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you know, made in collaboration with people behind the camera.
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So anyways, so I'm always like on a crusade to bring
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more Latino guests to The View because we don't get enough,
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and,, I,
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I convinced Carlos to come to The View.
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He was come,,
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New York. He was gonna do.
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An event, a concert in Carnegie Hall.
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And Carlos is coming to The View and the,
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the day before, I'm having.
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Lunch with him. And,
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and, and his wife Claudia Elena.
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And I've got, you know,
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the script of the questions that we're gonna ask him,
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so I said, Carlos,
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let me go through some of these with you,
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and I,
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you know, I start showing him and he goes.
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You're not Engle. I'm like,
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what do you mean you don't speak English?
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What do you mean you have an entire song,
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Carlito have pay attention.
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Carlitojangle come onvaja a cirque.
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You don't speak English.
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I mean, you had,
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you, you fell in love with your English teacher.
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He's like, Yes,
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I did, but I didn't learn English.
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So I said, Well,
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Carlos, bring the guitar because appar apparently you're not.
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So he came. I translated.
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I called my producer after the lunch,
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and I said, I got news for you.
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You know, all those questions we got for Carlos Williams?
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Well, he can't answer one of them because he doesn't speak
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English, and,,
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I, you know,
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I, I, we asked him very few questions which I
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simultaneously translated like they do at the UN.
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But I said, just bring your guitar,
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and you're gonna have to play,
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basically a cappella because music is international,
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and that everybody will get or music used to be international before
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people tried to make it.
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Political. Political. I love that story.
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I also the fact that that lyric no,
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but you still made it happen and you speak something that is
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so important to recognize.
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Yes, we need Latinos up here on camera using our voice
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but we need Latinos everywhere.
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You're right. The booking,
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the producers, the simple fact that you can't say my last
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name. Correctly, get it right.
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Like, at least try.
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Like, it really does take all of us in every single
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sector in space that we could get to.
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And I, I often encourage my friends,
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no, no, no,
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give it a try because I promise you that we,
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we are worthy of these spaces.
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And I think your,
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your story proves that point exactly.
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So thank you for sharing that insight.
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And as a fan,
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I can't wait to tell my parents that.
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Ana, you,
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you did come up as a Republican strategist,
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and now today in 2026,
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you are one of Donald Trump's biggest critics.
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How did we get here?
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well, it's not in 2026.
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I have been a critic of Donald Trump since the day he
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came down that escalator and called Mexicans rapists and criminals.
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and then there were just so many things he did
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which I found abhorrent and unacceptable,
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right? I mean,
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the, the, the,
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the attacks on, and the mocking of the disabled reporter.
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I have a disabled brother.
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The attacks on John McCain as not being a hero.
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John McCain was my personal hero.
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The attacks on Rosie O'Donnell,
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she was my colleague and my friend.
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The, the hearing him boast about sexual assault on those Access
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Hollywood tapes. The question I have is not why am I
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a critic. The question I have to other Latinos,
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particularly the ones that voted for him,
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is how are they not critics?
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And so I was not willing to put partisanship.
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It was the first time.
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in my life that I voted for a Democrat for
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president, I was not willing to look the other way on
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all of those objectionable,
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abhorrent,, character flaws and lifelong character flaws of Donald
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Trump just because he was a Republican.
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So that's how we got here.
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I put,,
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I put my moral compass,
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I put my community,
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I put My identity as a woman,
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as an immigrant, as a,
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as a, as a Latina,
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as the sister of a special needs brother,
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as all of those things,
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I put that before the partisan,
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the partisan label,
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and I'm, you know,
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I can, I can live with that.
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I can live with being shunned.
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I can live with the criticisms from Donald Trump and his supporters
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I can live with,
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With, with the costs that come from being critical
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of the president of the United States,
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what I can't live with is being an accomplice of a man
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who has targeted and attacked and demeaned.
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our community who has disappeared,
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our men, most of them without criminal backgrounds into the worst
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hellhole in Latin America in El Salvador,
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who has separated our families,
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who has killed US citizens who have been willing to go out
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there and speak up for their immigrant.
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Neighbors, I just,
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you know, that I can't live with.
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At this point in your career,
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you've been embraced in both conservative Republican and Democrat liberal spaces,
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more or less, depending on the time in the news.
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Do you feel politically at home anywhere right now?
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I don't have to.
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You know what I mean?
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I, I don't have to,
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but,, I think because,
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I, I've, you know,
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I'm 54,,
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I have grown in my beliefs,
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and I've grown in my life experiences.
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I don't have to To have a political home
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because I have Very strong political beliefs and political principles and
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and,
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and values. And so,
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I, I don't have to kind of pretend that I like
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what one side is saying or I like what the other side
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is saying. I can be,
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I can just be who I am and,
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and call balls and strikes as I see them.
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So, for me,
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I really, probably right now if,
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if I were truthful with you,
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I am more of an independent than anything else because there's things
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that I disagree with on every side.
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But I just think right now,
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the biggest danger to democracy is Donald Trump.
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And so, I will side with the team that is
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fighting him because what he is trying to do to elections,
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what he's trying to do to freedom of the press,
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what he's, the way he's weaponizing government against those who are
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critical of him. So that's my home right now is with
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Those defending American democracy.
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I think many Americans can relate to that sentiment.
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Do you have advice or words for Latinos who will be voting
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during these upcoming midterm elections?
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Yeah,, get out and vote,
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get informed,
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realize what's happening to our community.
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I think a lot,
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a lot of Latinos,
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particularly Latino men.,
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bought what Donald Trump was selling and thought that they were going
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to be doing better off economically and it was better for our
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community if he was elected.
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It hasn't been better for anybody in America.
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We are right now paying $5 a gallon at the pump.
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Groceries are, are,
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are more and more expensive every time I go to the grocery
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store. We are We are at a,
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in a war that he chose to throw us into and there's
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Americans dying and there's Americans being injured,
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but more than that,
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our community is under attack.
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If you don't are not willing to see it,
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then noapeor sciego que quenoquiere where it's if you're not seeing our
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community under attack, and,
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and, and the,
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the abuses of power,
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the Women dragged through the streets,
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the women shot and injured,
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the,, people who are legal permanent residents who will
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have asylum claims,,
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pending, who have lived in this country as decent contributing people
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for 1020, 30 years,
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being deported and treated worse than we would allow animals to be
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treated. If you don't see it,
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it's because you don't wanna see it.
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And so, I,
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I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna vote for Liam Ramos.
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And you know, now,
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this administration, they want us to forget mass deportations.
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They have told Republicans running for office.
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That they should not use the term mass deportations,
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that they should not use,
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flout that term and,
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and be proud of that,
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and, you know,
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tout that as a,
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as an accomplishment. Well,
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OK, they might not be using the term,
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but I sure as hell I'm not gonna forget our tias and
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our abuelas and our amigos that have been,
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you know,
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put into a reign of terror because of this administration.
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So yeah, I'm gonna go vote for all of those people
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We must remember and we must not shut up about it
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It's, it's our duty.
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Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl,
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Iran pulling out of the World Cup,
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Venezuela beating the United States in the World Baseball Classic.
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Some people argue that art,
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music, sports, and culture should not be mixed with politics
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What's your stance on that?
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Do you believe everything is political?
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Yes,, look,
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I think you can choose,
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to live in a bubble that's not political,
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And, you know,
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if, if, if you can manage that in this day
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and age,,
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more power to you,
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certainly I can't,
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and I don't, you know,
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I don't think that if you are a bad bunny,
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to, to use him as an example,
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you can ignore the fact that Puerto Rico is treated like they
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are, the Puerto Ricans are treated like second-class citizens.
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You can't ignore the fact.
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That this many years after Maria,
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their electrical grid is still a disaster and they,
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they're, you know,
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and the electricity goes out there practically every week,
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if not more, more regularly than that.
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They're, they're part of the United States.
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Where else in the United States would it be OK for there
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to, to be a disastrous electrical situation 10 years after a
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hurricane? Nowhere else would they allow it.
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You think they would have allowed it in Texas?
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You think they would have allowed it in Florida?
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You think they would have allowed it in,
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in Arkansas? No.
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But somehow for Puerto Rico,
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that's OK. So yeah,
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I, I would have a real issue if Bad Bunny wasn't
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thinking. that his concerts in the United States could be used
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to bait and lure and then trap immigrants that were going there
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to go see them,
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so I, I,
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I just, I,
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I don't know how you can be Latino right now in particular
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and, and not,
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not respond in the arts,
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anytime you have a platform,
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and we all have a platform,
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you don't have to be on TV.
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You don't have to be an international renowned singer,
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you know, if,
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if you, you,
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you have a dinner table,
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you have a circle of friends,
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you have a Twitter account,
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you have an Instagram account,
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you have a TikTok account.
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We don't, you know,
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we don't all need to have the same level of platform.
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We all have a voice and those of us who have a
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vote must use it to improve our community,
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so. I hope to get to a day where I can
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say to you, ah,
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you know, we don't have to be political about,
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about The arts, we don't have to be political in our
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songs. We don't have to be political in our speeches.
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I, I strive for that.
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I, you know,
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I wanna be there singing about bunnies and,
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and songs and puppies and apple pie,
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but umama no estamojayengeo momento.
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That's not where we are right now.
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Thank you for that.
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I, I. I appreciate your sentiment and I know you
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you got to see Bad Bunny at the halftime show yourself
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I, I can imagine there weren't many of us that
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were able to make it to the stadium,
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but I can imagine the joy and the,
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the, the feeling of representation that was.
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Felt by those that we all saw it,
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you know, on in TV in our living rooms,
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the lasada con mommy con papi colos abuelos,
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and, and I appreciate that he took the space
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and he, he spoke for all of us.
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I got to spend time with him and see him when he
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did the,,
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Saturday Night Live skit,
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the, the opening Saturday Night Live skit,
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Listen, I,
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I don't do football.
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I don't do sports,
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so,,
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I'm not gonna go spend the money to trek across the country
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Well, I'd rather go see him in Spain than see
20:54
him in the Super Bowl,
20:55
but I did see him in that Saturday Night,
20:58
live skit,
20:59
and I had the chance.
21:01
not only to thank him,
21:03
and, and recognize his accomplishments,
21:06
but to thank Lorne Michaels for,
21:10
having Marcelo Hernandez in the cast,
21:13
doing all these skits about Latino humor and involving Latino situations and
21:19
having Benito there in the,
21:22
in the opening,
21:24
of, of this season.
21:26
of Saturday Night Live,
21:27
and again, doing skits,
21:29
where, where we get to,
21:31
you know, show our,
21:32
our idiosyncrasy and show our identity and be proud of it,
21:36
that, you know,
21:36
it's a huge platform,
21:40
where he was featuring two Latinos,
21:42
and I, I,
21:43
I'm very thankful that at this time,
21:45
there's people like Lorne Michaels doing that.
21:47
Yes, shout out to Lorne Michaels and seeing Marcello's success and
21:51
rise is so inspiring.
21:54
Hearing that accent every time him making Ryan Gosling,
21:58
do a Cuban poppy on screen,
22:00
it, it's just,
22:01
it's gold. It's gold,
22:02
and, and shout out Lorne Michaels.
22:04
I appreciate that you carried.
22:06
Ryan Gosling is gonna be on The View,
22:09
this,,
22:10
this Friday. And honestly,
22:13
all I wanna talk to him about is being married to a
22:15
Cuban. I know,
22:16
we're now seeing content creators and influencers like Carlos Eduardo Espina and
22:22
Hassan Picar or Piker in political spaces.
22:26
What are your thoughts on them holding power in political discourse?
22:30
I think we need to talk politics in every which way that
22:34
reaches people. So whatever that content is,
22:39
and I love that there's These new outlets that that give
22:46
more voice to more people right and that that that are
22:50
different ages and look different and come from different backgrounds I just
22:53
think that is a a good thing but it's something that you
22:57
know it's something that Obama knew how to do very well probably
23:01
hasn't been done as well since Obama which was reach people in
23:05
a micro level where,
23:07
they are and with what interests them so I think
23:09
it's terrific. What do you think about that?
23:12
Oh, as a young person,
23:14
I love it because I feel like it gives us the chance
23:18
to be in more spaces.
23:19
I feel like in red carpets in particular,
23:22
there have been moments where influencers hop on and don't quite know
23:26
how to speak. On on a carpet or how to approach
23:30
certain conversations and I think that all leads back to the lack
23:34
of preparation and lack of research and lack of OK if you're
23:37
gonna be in this space do the work that everyone else did
23:40
to to be there in that moment other than that I
23:44
think the more representation and the more control that we have,
23:47
you know, given the state of media at this.
23:50
time I think it's,
23:51
it's powerful to have more of us in there and as a
23:54
Latina I, I,
23:55
that's, that's why I'm here speaking with you today,
23:58
as, as someone who wouldn't probably be chosen to
24:02
be here so early on in my career so I'm for it
24:06
given those circumstances. Thank you for asking me though.
24:09
No, I'm gonna,
24:09
I'm gonna pick your brain at some point about how to reach
24:11
out, how to reach young Latinos,
24:14
you know, I think,
24:15
I think it's,.
24:16
It's a, it's a subgroup that just hasn't been effectively communicated
24:20
with, and people don't take them into consideration.
24:24
No, they don't,
24:25
and they create rumors about us.
24:27
They say Gen Z doesn't like to work.
24:28
Gen Z doesn't have sex,
24:30
Gen Z doesn't drink alcohol,
24:31
and that's like the narrative that's out about us right now.
24:34
And I wish that people were eager to actually get to know
24:37
us. So I appreciate that.
24:40
work, you like to have sex,
24:41
and you like to drink alcohol.
24:45
Listen, listen, listen,
24:46
I never said that.
24:47
I just think it's unfair to go around saying we all don't
24:52
So that's my formal response there.
24:55
As much. I know alcohol consumption is down throughout the country
25:00
maybe the world.
25:01
It's down significantly, and I know it's not my generation drinking
25:05
less, so I don't know who we're gonna blame for.
25:08
Whose fault is it?
25:11
Whose fault is it?
25:12
Well, Ana, before we go,
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I'd like your point of view on some topical stories.
25:17
For far too long,
25:18
Cuba has faced hardship.
25:20
The people of Cuba are now feeling the repercussions after the US
25:24
fuel blockade. Trump the other day said full chest that he
25:28
could take Cuba and do anything he wants with it.
25:32
Does the US need to take over Cuba.
25:35
Cuba needs freedom, and the people of Cuba have lived,
25:39
without human rights,
25:40
without,, political parties,
25:42
without free elections, without freedom of the press for 67 years
25:48
now. Think of that,
25:49
67 years. My entire lifetime plus,
25:55
you know,,
25:57
another 12 years,
26:00
I really yearn for a day when we will have
26:03
a, a free Cuba for when,
26:04
you know, my husband can take his kids there to see
26:07
where he grew up and where he was born.
26:10
do I think the United States should take Cuba?
26:13
Well, I think that before they take Cuba,
26:15
they should fix Puerto Rico.
26:17
Right? We don't need another Commonwealth that gets treated the way
26:21
that Puerto Rico is being treated right now.
26:25
I, listen,
26:26
I, and I,
26:26
I do think though that right now because of actions that Trump
26:31
has taken. The people of Cuba are,
26:36
going through incredible hardship,
26:38
and it's not just because of actions that Trump has taken.
26:40
It's because of 67 years of dictatorship and corruption where the Cuban
26:45
government has gotten rich.
26:47
They're, you know,
26:48
they've got billions of dollars that they have stolen,
26:50
and at the same time the people of Cuba have gotten,
26:53
you know, starving poor.
26:56
it, it breaks my heart that they have right
26:58
now no electricity, no food,
27:01
no water, no nothing,
27:02
no nothing.,
27:05
I don't know what's gonna happen there.
27:06
I, I don't,
27:07
and I, I just,
27:08
I don't hear a plan from Trump as to how to bring
27:12
about real democracy. When,
27:14
when there's been a dictatorship that's 67 years old,
27:17
that thing is ingrained into the society and the culture.
27:23
So this is not like,
27:24
you know, a lot of times there's been regime change in
27:27
the past. There's where,
27:28
where the dictators flee to another country and everything changes from one
27:32
day to the other.
27:34
I don't know that that will happen in Cuba.
27:36
I don't know that that can happen in Cuba.
27:38
All I know is that the people of Cuba deserve to live
27:41
in freedom and have their human rights respected after 67 years of
27:46
oppression and poverty and corruption.
27:48
Anna, today the news broke.
27:50
Civil rights activist Dolores Huerta revealed that she is a survivor of
27:55
Cesar Chavez and his sexual misconduct.
27:58
Should that change the way America and Latinos celebrate his legacy?
28:02
Yeah, I think so.
28:04
it's a very painful topic.
28:06
it's a very painful topic,
28:08
I think for me and for so many in the community.
28:11
I, I've known about it for a couple of days because
28:14
I had heard about this New York Times investigation and,
28:19
you know,
28:19
there's a Dolores Huerta aspect to it,
28:21
but I think just as important it is that we give coverage
28:25
and, and time to the two women who were Allegedly minors
28:32
when he sexually assaulted them.
28:34
There's, you know,
28:35
two women,,
28:36
two young women who were Very young and and,
28:40
and were part of the,
28:41
the commune where I guess they all lived and are alleging
28:44
that they were sexually assaulted and tell very similar stories.
28:49
So that to me.
28:53
Is something you don't come back from,
28:55
cause you're talking about pedophilia,
28:57
you're talking, and I,
28:58
and I think for too long,
29:00
I myself have been incredibly critical of those who knew and enabled
29:05
what Jeffrey Epstein was doing,
29:07
and he was, you know,
29:08
this guy with power,
29:09
and I think all the common thread here is always about men
29:13
with power and enablers.
29:16
Who helped them get away with sexual assault,
29:20
particularly on minors. That's unjustifiable.
29:23
I also, I have to tell you,
29:24
I love, my heart goes out to those women.
29:27
My heart goes out to,
29:29
to his followers and to,
29:31
and to his family.
29:33
I'm very good friends with Julie Rodriguez,
29:35
his granddaughter, who was in the Biden White House and did
29:39
a spectacular job. And that White House has always been an
29:42
advocate for, for women,
29:44
has always been an advocate for those who have no voice,
29:47
and I can only think about how devastating this is for the
29:51
women who were assaulted,
29:53
their families, and also for the,
29:57
the families,,
29:58
of, of Cesar Chavez and the,
30:00
and the families,,
30:02
of, of the supporters and collaborators of Cesar Chavez who,
30:06
who are just learning something that's so incredibly traumatic.
30:09
And, and shocking,
30:11
but. Yeah,
30:14
that I, I,
30:15
I, I, I,
30:16
I don't know how you can,
30:19
you know, you can.
30:21
You can acknowledge his accomplishments and you can,
30:26
but you cannot look the other way,
30:28
if we're talking about pedophilia.
30:30
You just can't. That's,
30:31
that's a, a line on the sand you just cannot cross
30:34
I think many in the community,
30:36
share your sentiments and are grieving the news today in
30:39
support of Dolores Huerta and the two additional survivors.
30:43
You and I think the word of using grieving is,
30:46
is the right word,
30:48
because, you know,
30:49
we are a community that lacks.
30:51
that lacks heroes recognized nationally,
30:55
you know, there's not that many Latinos who have schools and
30:59
streets and buildings named for them all over the country,
31:04
who have,
31:06
you know, days that they're recognized all over the country,
31:09
and so,,
31:11
Cesar Chavez was, was that guy for the Latino community and
31:14
so. At a time when our community so desperately needs
31:21
a, a, a hero and recognition,
31:23
and it's devastating to lose the guy we have.
31:25
It is devastating. It it's going to take some time to
31:29
process, but I think I've heard from many devastation,
31:33
grief, pain, tears,
31:35
emotional sadness,,
31:37
and regardless of our connection to Dolores or not,
31:40
I think many women,
31:42
many women especially,,
31:44
see themselves in, in this story,
31:47
especially coming off of the release of the Epstein files
31:50
So it's, it's important to.
31:52
Continue to hold these conversations and and vouch for survivors and their
31:57
stories. I think media and and the system,
32:00
the court system,,
32:01
tends to disregard us.
32:04
So,, I appreciate your insight there.
32:06
You've actually worked in legacy near media,
32:09
or, you know,
32:10
in separate spaces across your entire career.
32:13
How do you see the media landscape right now and who's actually
32:16
holding the power? Well,
32:19
I think the people are holding the power.
32:20
I think the viewers and the consumers of information are the ones
32:24
holding their the power because there's so many different options and they
32:28
just have so many different choices that the people making the choices
32:33
are the ones that are determining what media does,
32:37
right? I, I grew up,
32:38
when I was a little kid in this country,
32:40
we had Three networks,
32:42
and then we had,
32:44
Spanish networks.
32:45
The, the level of choices we have now between YouTube and
32:49
podcast and streaming, and,
32:53
you know, Netflix and chill and all of those things,
32:57
it's just so many choices,
33:01
And people competing for eyeballs,
33:03
which I think makes content that much better.
33:07
And now we have the leap.
33:10
We get to listen to your podcast.
33:12
Let's talk all about it.
33:13
What are the conversations that you're hoping to,
33:16
to hold on your new podcast?
33:18
I want it to be all sorts of conversations,
33:21
topical about what's going on,
33:23
in the news and And issues that I have questions
33:26
about. I want to be able to do a deeper dive
33:29
into some things than I can on The View,
33:32
where the interviews are relatively shorter on CNN where again the
33:37
interviews are relatively short.
33:39
So,.,
33:40
I had Maria Hinojosa.
33:41
I had Julie K.
33:42
Brown, who's a journalist from the Miami Herald that,
33:46
revealed the,
33:48
the expanse of the pedophilia,
33:50
rating of,
33:51
of Jeffrey Epstein.
33:53
she was,
33:53
she did it in 2018.
33:55
I just had Carlos del Toro on.
33:57
He's a former Secretary of the Navy to talk about what's happening
34:00
in Iran and in Cuba,
34:01
which he's,,
34:03
where he was born and in Venezuela,
34:04
give his perspective as somebody that was a.
34:07
Secretary of the Navy and a commandant of a missile
34:10
destroyer,, ship.
34:13
So it's, it's,
34:13
it's all over the gamut this week.
34:16
I'm gonna be interviewing,
34:18
Congresswoman Jayapal because I want a deeper dive on the
34:21
SA Act. I feel like a lot of us don't really
34:24
understand what's in this bill,
34:26
and it's a really big deal what Donald Trump is trying to
34:29
do affecting the the elections,
34:31
and I like. The way Jayapal explains things,
34:35
that's why we have her on today.
34:38
She's really good at breaking down complicated,
34:42
issues,,
34:43
like this, but I also talk about like I,
34:45
I have a segment where I talk about.
34:47
The coward of the week and the hero of the week,
34:51
right, and you know,
34:52
so Cobarde de la semana and the and and Eero de la
34:56
semana, I talk about the things that are bringing me joy
35:00
that,, are making me happy because I think it's
35:03
really important that as all of this shit is going on all
35:05
around us. That,
35:07
that we find balance,
35:09
that we take care of ourselves,
35:10
that we give ourselves grace,
35:13
and, and that we accept that joy is.
35:17
It's a form of resistance and that we've gotta still find things
35:21
that make us happy and make us laugh and make us dance
35:25
So,,
35:25
I, I highlight that as well,
35:27
and I call it bleep,
35:29
as I was telling you before,
35:30
because on The View,
35:31
you know, daytime network TV if,
35:34
if I say a bad word here and then they'll
35:36
bleep me and so sometimes I've tried to say the bad words
35:38
in Spanish thinking they wouldn't know and maybe I'll get through.
35:43
but they're on to me.
35:44
So right now anything I say in Spanish,
35:46
like, literally if I say jamoni queso,
35:50
they'll bleep it because they don't know what's happening.
35:52
So,, they're like,
35:54
OK, could she be saying a bad word?
35:56
Is that a bad word and so?
35:58
Some Hispanic country, right?
36:00
Like,, I mean,
36:01
it's, it's just,
36:02
like that.
36:03
So this is unbleeped.
36:05
This is,,
36:06
I get to choose the topics.
36:07
I get to choose the guests.
36:09
I get to say the words I wanna say,
36:13
and,,
36:14
and I'm really,,
36:15
appreciative of people who are following on the,
36:17
on the journey we've been charting.
36:19
In amongst the top shows of of Apple Podcasts since the first
36:24
week. So now I gotta,
36:25
I feel all this pressure to keep it up,
36:27
but it's a wonderful,
36:29
news outlet and new media outlet.
36:33
I, I'm getting my feet wet and seeing how
36:35
I, how I do.
36:38
Well, congratulations. I can't wait to see you unbleeped and
36:42
continue to hold these important conversations you mentioned like breaking down these
36:46
very complex, complicated,
36:48
scary acts and political,
36:50
you know, realities of the moment that I think will only
36:54
help us better understand the importance of making sure mom.
36:58
Papi laguita Tiotia, get out there and vote because yes,
37:02
that will have repercussions just like we're seeing and living in right
37:06
now. Well, thank you so much.
37:08
Where can our audience tune into what's to come for Bleep and
37:12
any upcoming guests? Well,
37:14
you can tune in anywhere you get your podcasts.
37:16
we're also on YouTube,
37:20
and,,
37:21
and, and I'm reading all the comments and replies and suggestions
37:24
right now.,
37:26
on how to make it better and what topics you all want
37:28
me to talk about.
37:29
Amazing. Well, familia,
37:31
me too. Ana Navarro,
37:32
thank you so, so much for joining us today.
37:36
Thank you. Thank you,
37:37
thank you. I mucho hexito mini preciosa.
37:40
I, plaer er espeoconocer temperalgiajalajalazo una brazote saludos muchas gracias
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