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Do you feel like your culture supported you growing up?
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I didn't grow up with any Colombians my whole life.
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So I had nothing to support me because they were never around
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No, because everybody around me was like, don't forget where
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I know where I come from.
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I don't wanna be your trap.
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I'm trying to leave, going to school.
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There was really hard for me.
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I know kids with girls would say such mean things about the
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culture and say you look like a maid gardeners are annoying
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I felt a sense of whoa shame in a sense.
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I don't, I didn't feel like I was always accepted by Latinas
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I feel like Latina women were kind of mean to me growing up.
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So I was like, fuck y'all bitches girl.
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Let me tell you, we are back here.
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You guys just out here trying to survive.
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I feel like this year is going by like this.
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Speaking of the seasons, you already know I'm a big on astrology
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and we are in Scorpio season.
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But what do you guys feel because like when people talk about
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this, the moon cycles and stuff.
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They're like, I'm feeling it right now and I've never, I don't
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know if I cor the two, the full mo for the last week I was the lunar
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I felt we were in between eclipses and it, yesterday Monday
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was the beginning of Scorpio, which is more like an intense
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Like we're just getting all the flu is going away.
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We're focusing, we're like focusing what's important.
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Like even with work, I feel like we're like, OK, compared to
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Is it just me or, and this is from somebody that doesn't really
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follow astrology or like moon patterns or all that stuff.
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Do you feel like that?
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I don't know for some reason and I always feel like everybody's
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going through it and they, it's always because of the moon
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Like, I've never had something positive.
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Like this is a good time.
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It's always like in retrograde, it's always like something
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One of them, I don't have the facts, but one of them is coming
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out of retrograde is gonna be a good time for luck.
01:59
Like there's also, there's also luck like in grade is when
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all the like the what is it called?
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Technology, things like you should buy anything new.
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But I think that the moon really helps to filter out things
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in order to start fresh in the next cycle of whatever it is.
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I like, I like to use astrology.
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Like I, ok, I'm really deep into the weeds of astrology because
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it's easy for me to judge people.
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But I like to use it for, like, every, whatever that sign symbolizes
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I'm like, that's what I should be focused on this season.
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So, what is this sign symbolized this Scorpio even though
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We'll get into that in a little bit.
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Scorpio is really the sign of rebirth and, like, really like
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it's like the Phoenix is like, you die and you're born again
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Yeah, you rise from the ashes.
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That's what I feel like I'm doing that right now.
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I've been going through just like, ok, first off, I'm about
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to be 30 0 no, oh no, I call the cops.
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Don't tell me when you guys were 29.
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You guys weren't kind of feeling a little big going into a new
03:01
I'm freaking out about becoming 35.
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So what do you, what do you feel is gonna change from 29 to 30
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I just, it's a new decade and I, I feel pressure because I feel
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like, and it's true.
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We talk about this all the time.
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I feel like, OK, I don't have this, I don't have a house yet.
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Like I don't have these things.
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They're all my friends around me that why?
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You do you def I try to remind myself of that but you get in your
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You're like, why am I like 30 like all these already 20 something
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year olds already have all these things that maybe I haven't
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They're lying on Tik Tok.
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They're, they're lying.
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But honestly, I think we were talking off camera about how
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30 is such a transform, transformative year.
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Like in my twenties, I felt like I did a lot of things that I was
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like, I was supposed to do this because society wanted me to
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do this and in my thirties, I'm like, no, these are my own decisions
03:50
So I want, I was like, I feel like you get a lot of like, I don't
03:52
give a fuck energy in your thirties, I think.
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I'm trying not to rush into things just because I feel rushed
03:59
because then you settling or you end up in a lifelong commitment
04:03
or something like that that you don't want to get into.
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That is what Scorpio season is about is like, do you wanna be
04:08
Because one thing about Scorpio is they don't commit.
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I, have you ever dated a Scorpio?
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No, you've never dated a OK.
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So is that, is that we never got far enough?
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I'm traumatized, traumatized by Gemini man.
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I will say that like Gemini the Scorpio men that we know out
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I just wanna say before we get into that out of the signs you
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shouldn't date Scorpio and Gemini.
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They're right next to each other.
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And those are the, those are the only signs I've ever dated
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Like three of my first.
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Well, my first love was a Scorpio and then my second love was
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So I'm just traumatized.
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So, you really don't, like, I just can't.
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I say they're like, I don't know why they're on the planet.
04:46
Like, what are their here?
04:47
I'm maybe trying to be.
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So we're gonna get like, they all have the same type of traits
04:52
like Miguel, like, do you even know anything about his life
04:55
I don't know, he just won an award.
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An I can't award, I mean, his personal life.
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Yeah, he's from San Pedro.
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He's half black, half Mexican.
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But I mean, like his personal life, like, do we know any of his
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He just got divorced again for the 10th time with the same with
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That's some Scorpio though.
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No, that's what Scorpios do they come back 15 years later to
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be like, oh my God, I love you.
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You could have just told me that when we were first dating Joaquin
05:22
I don't know much about his life, but he has a, these are some
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serious, incredible a I'll give Scorpio Men, they win awards
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He, he has Mad Awards, Drake wins awards.
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They all win awards.
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They take, they take their career really seriously.
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It's just, I'm like, just don't ever date a least.
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See how happy you ladies are.
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Don't ever date, don't date a score for me or else you become
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I, I feel like every sign has their thing because the Scorpios
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I'll take your word for it, girl.
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Yeah, it's, you know, it's fine.
05:53
So we're gonna, we're gonna move into another topic that I
05:56
think is interesting.
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I actually didn't know this about Becky G.
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I was like, at first I really liked her song in the shower singing
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It was yo, I used to listen to the song all the time in the shower
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Like, and I always wondered why, right.
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You know, I got to the New York in there.
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I always wonder, like, why she went so deep into the Spanish
06:15
Like, I think it was a point in her career where she decided
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Like, there was like before everyone started blowing up,
06:20
like Carro and bad bunny, she went really hard into the Spanish
06:24
And I, and she was a little, like, for me, I felt like provocative
06:27
I was like, wow, like she's doing, there was a song a Mime Mao
06:31
Yeah, that was crazy.
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But I was like, that's kind of like, I just saw her shower.
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So like, I like older men and like, what, you know, so what are
06:39
Like, what happened next?
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I guess I wanted to know what happened.
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And then someone told me that actually some of that career
06:45
decision happened because her brother, she has a family member
06:47
that's autistic and they said it's best for the, for him to
06:51
just speak one language in the home.
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So that's why she went deep into the Spanish language.
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I could see that though.
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I feel like back in, like when me and Becky G were growing up
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when we were growing up, I've met her many times.
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She's really celebrities.
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That's the truth because I work, I worked in the music industry
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So, like, I've seen her around and stuff but I mean, I've never
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had a deep conversation with her, but it's true.
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Like our generation, a lot of the times we were raised to not
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speak in Spanish and that's just the truth.
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Like I didn't speak a lot.
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Like there was a point I forget what it was and I'm sure you guys
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But where parents wanted their Children to simulate so much
07:26
in the US that they were like, you know, speak English, learn
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That's why there's a lot of maybe um Latino Children that grew
07:34
up and now don't speak English.
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I feel like I have the opposite.
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Like my grandma always made sure that you need to know both
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languages because you can money in two languages.
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And my, I have 1.5 languages, I think for my, in my family it
07:47
was like, don't have an accent in English so speak English
07:51
as much as possible.
07:53
Like, you don't wanna have an accent, you wanna be neutral
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and now I don't know what happened.
07:56
I don't, I don't speak English or Spanish.
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I don't know what is happening.
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No, your Spanish is fine.
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Ivana, you'll be giving a pop quiz like let's speak Spanish
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You know your Spanish is your Spanish is fine.
08:07
All right ladies, we're moving topics.
08:09
It's time for glam hot take, you know, I like to size it up.
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So there's a topic on the Glam hot take hotline that we need
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to talk about as you know, bad bunny El Conejo Malo is dating
08:22
Can someone who some say does not support the Latin X Latin
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a whatever word you're using this week come community and
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sorry, I just whatever and has actually gone as far as appropriating
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it for her tequila brand.
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Have you ladies seen this video where Kendall Jenner is promoting
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her Tequila 818 brand?
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I've seen the commercial in the post.
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So what is, what was your because I just saw it today for the
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What was your initial reaction to that?
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I'm gonna be honest.
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I think a lot of people that are Mexican American are not, they're
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not vibing with it at all.
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Like if I, if you read like some of the comments under a lot of
08:57
these posts, you see just overall anger and you know, you're
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taking advantage of and all this stuff.
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I'm gonna just be honest, it doesn't, it didn't really bother
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Like she's, you know, she's showing imagery of Mexico.
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I think she's doing her best to honestly, I, I don't even, I
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don't think there's any problem with celebrating a culture
09:17
that you admire and love especially.
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But that, that's the thing.
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But like, listen, I would say I moved to Mexico City, I went
09:24
to the outskirts where the, you know, where the volcanoes
09:26
are and the pyramids are and I fell in love with the agave plant
09:31
And I did a whole to it and I found out that the, that the thread
09:35
and needle come from the agave plant like in the middle, there's
09:38
a really big pointy thing.
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Back in the day, the indigenous people, the ones used to make
09:42
rugs would cut the top off and in that, which would be the needle
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And in that, that top there's a string, a white string.
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So that's where the needle and thread came from.
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And then they would use flowers to paint the thread different
09:54
colors and make rugs that would like literally last forever
09:57
So th Colombian, what I learned I saw and I was like, I'm gonna
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I wanna do, you know, like I felt a little bit different than
10:06
someone doing something surface for like a commercial like
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hey, what makes you say it's surface?
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But she li has, she spent time with the Mexican community.
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We don't have houses in, in, in Cabo.
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It's part of the judge like there's so many layers of it.
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Like I think it's different.
10:22
Like I think our Latino culture is so beautiful and I think
10:25
that we should share it.
10:25
Like I'm, I'm now learning a little bit more about the Mexican
10:28
culture and I'm also learning about Colombian culture, right
10:30
But I think it's a difference between just going in to like
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make mo to monetize something versus like a genuine appreciation
10:37
of like, hey, I went and I researched and maybe she did do research
10:40
on the, how do I know she doesn't appreciate it?
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I think from an outside in, we look at it and we're like uh automatically
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assume taking advantage of stealing and I know how she really
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I haven't sat down and talked to her.
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I don't know much about the tequila making process, but I do
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know that it is kind of from what I've learned and like, I know
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I know tequila me might be different, but I think it's like
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a deep process that a lo a lot of the Mexican community benefits
11:03
So it's like not only are you, like, it's fine that you're appreciative
11:06
but you're, you're probably taking someone's income stream
11:08
away from them or she's giving jobs to a lot of Mexicans which
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you know, it, you know, it, it could be either or I, I don't fuck
11:17
with it but that's OK.
11:18
I support everyone's dreams and if they have the ability to
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make it happen, like make it happen, I know.
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But tequila is so like, again, I'm still learning about, I'm
11:27
still learning about the Mexican culture.
11:28
Tequila is so important to the Mexican community, right?
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So it's like, and I, I like, I don't know all of the process of
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it, but I'm like, I just think it's like, it's just self serving
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like, and she's not the only celebrity with a tequila brand
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And I think the guy who owns a Mio, what's his name?
11:44
But Casa is the vibe.
11:45
I'm not gonna lie to you.
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It's like when it comes to the Kardashians, people will magnifying
11:53
How many celebrities have tequila brands that they go out
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and drink it all the time.
11:58
Like a lot of the people that are like so anti Longoria but Eva
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Longoria is Mexican.
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Well, you know, we'll, we'll talk more after the break, leave
12:08
your comments in the live and let I wanna know what y'all think
12:10
because maybe maybe I need some, some backup or maybe Jessica
12:13
No, I think if you go online, plenty of people agree with you
12:17
I think a lot of people are gonna be like, but let's see.
12:19
Let's see what we say after the break.
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I'm a woman so I can draw women.
12:24
I understand how a woman looks when she goes like this.
12:27
Men are right there.
12:28
And that's really how I see men in real life.
12:30
You're small, you're little, you're insignificant.
12:32
You're not gonna dominate me.
12:34
You're not gonna ruin my day.
12:38
All right, we're back, we're back and we have a lot to say there's
12:43
still a lot to unpack with this Kendall Jenner and bad bunny
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I was gonna say it's such a, like a heavy topic.
12:48
It's so hard to just talk about it in three minutes.
12:52
But I'm gonna ask you one question that's gonna summarize
12:56
Can you separate your cultural morals from the person you're
12:59
dating and who, who is influencing you?
13:02
So like your cultural like traditions and what, what you,
13:05
what you stand for and what your person dates?
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Can you separate that?
13:09
Like, have you ever dated someone from a different culture
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I only dated somebody from a different culture.
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So how, how does that like, I guess it seems like you guys, I
13:17
think it's cool to bring your culture to the table and like
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Like there's always a recessive and a dominant culture.
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Like if they, if, if my Colombian culture, my traditions,
13:28
the music, the people, the food is gonna be dominant, then
13:31
we're gonna, we're gonna work with you what I mean?
13:33
But I think I'm happy to learn about other cultures, but I think
13:37
in bad bunny's situation, he was so adamant about like, you
13:40
know, there's a lot of, of term oil and histo historical things
13:43
happening in Puerto Rico, especially with Americans taking
13:46
over like a lot of their big properties and beaches and he made
13:50
it, he made songs about it.
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He has his, his ex Gabriela in one of the songs.
13:55
And I think a lot of people are upset because, you know, he's
13:57
so like, I think deeper than the culture.
13:59
He's so politically involved in Puerto Rico that to date someone
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like Kendo that stands for something that's kind of completely
14:05
opposite from what we see because, you know, we actually don't
14:08
we don't know the girl, whatever, but she stands for something
14:10
completely opposite than what he was fighting and raising
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awareness from for I think people are upset about that.
14:15
So you think that in this situation, maybe there are some conflicts
14:20
I, I just, I think this is, I, I just feel like this is for publicity
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That's just like my honest opinion.
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I hope that we, we, I mean, even people that aren't in like the
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entertainment space, people know they get together sometimes
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I mean, you've seen their interactions and like those videos
14:36
that go viral and there's a communication barrier.
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Like, I feel like there's a communication barrier.
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I'm all for dating outside your culture.
14:43
Like I'm definitely doing that recently more than I ever have
14:48
I like John Montana because I'm gonna, and Minnesota and I
14:55
excuse you, I'm gonna tell you that.
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But anyway, I feel like it's been so fun and, and I've never
15:03
I've always dated men in or I've tried to date men in my culture
15:06
just because it's easier.
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They can speak to my mom Hispanic language like you.
15:09
It's just that you don't have to explain things, they just
15:11
get it, they just understand, you don't have to explain.
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But I've actually been really enjoying learning something
15:16
learning or having them learn something new and they'd be
15:18
kind of like, I don't know.
15:21
So we have a lot more going on right now.
15:23
We're gonna be bringing in our girls, San Juan.
15:26
We're gonna get into caas no more where we're gonna be.
15:30
We're gonna be asking each other some uncomfortable questions
15:34
We're gonna be all right.
15:36
And some of the questions we can't avoid, we're gonna get into
15:39
We're gonna get deep as you know, we're having fun here and
15:41
we wanna hear from you directly.
15:43
I wanna know what you think about the, the topics, the episode
15:46
talk, tell, tell us everything we wanna hear real time feedback
15:49
so we can respond to your comments at the end of the episode
15:52
Well, let's get straight into it.
15:53
My girl and one there she is, she came extra prepared San Juan
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at the native to East L A.
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She's a doll maker designer of San Juan Factory.
16:04
She has painted you guys literally all over the city of Los
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Angeles, Chicago, San Francisco, Guatemala, Puerto Rico
16:12
She just loves uh making prints, garments and just loves doing
16:15
what she does best, which is art.
16:19
Thank you for being here for the doll maker of L A, the doll maker
16:24
I mean you drive around even.
16:26
I remember I used to live in East L A and you see you and I, and
16:30
I remember I'd always like look at him and be like dang, that's
16:32
It's so distinguishable.
16:34
Your art is just different.
16:35
You could just tell what it is right?
16:37
With the long eyelashes were staring at you as you drive through
16:41
So when did you start?
16:42
Like what, what was your inspiration to start these dolls
16:44
I started when I was nine years old drawing and then at 15, I
16:47
was like, I need to be a brand like Betsy Johnson like me like
16:52
I need to be a brand.
16:54
Why can't this little Mexican girl that works in a lunch truck
16:57
with her mom have a brand.
16:58
So I started doing first with like a T shirt which is an outline
17:02
because it's really expensive to do this.
17:06
Look at the logo, the whole thing you're designing from like
17:11
We're all like touching.
17:12
The zipper is the girls come from.
17:15
Where is that inspiration from the dolls?
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I'm a woman so I can draw women.
17:19
I understand how a woman looks when she goes like this.
17:22
Men are right there.
17:24
So you make so wait, I I'm learning.
17:26
So are the men, the teddy bear and the women, the, the doll,
17:30
So the main character to me, what, what I honor is women and
17:34
man, how many times have we've gone crazy over a man girl all
17:39
the time when you trying to function?
17:41
Because we're just so on edge.
17:43
So my men are these little guys right here.
17:45
So is it like a voodoo doll?
17:46
Because I want one of those?
17:48
I mean, you could probably evoke something.
17:50
I like to put my ex into it like a Chucky doll.
17:54
And that's really how I see men in real life.
17:56
Like you're small, you're little, you're insignificant
17:59
You're not gonna dominate me.
18:00
You're not gonna ruin my day, my career.
18:04
But is there a world where you, you do fall in love with a guy
18:07
and you feel great about that because here are you so against
18:12
Is there a world where you could?
18:13
That's a good question because you post so much content about
18:17
You don't need a man.
18:18
Like I see all the videos, trust me and people love it.
18:21
They love you because I wanna know is there a world where you
18:24
feel like you'd want that life one day I've always wanted to
18:26
ask you or do you always feel like you're gonna be just this
18:28
So a while back, I was engaged.
18:33
I know, I know that but I walked away from it and now I'm like
18:36
oh my God, I kinda regret it.
18:38
But then I opened myself to love and four months ago I went through
18:42
a break up and I was like, oh my God player down, player down
18:48
So how does, how does the I know we talked a lot about like sometimes
18:52
when we are in that phase in relationships, we kinda like lose
18:55
the the brain cells.
18:56
I lost my brain cells for three years.
18:58
I'm just not getting them back.
18:59
Yeah, like literally you're watching me.
19:03
Yeah, I got a queer back.
19:04
They're all coming slowly.
19:05
You can't wait too girls about the pound, the break up.
19:11
I would say you, I know that it was real love and we lost the most
19:13
weight, but I've gained a lot of weight with my ex.
19:15
But I wanna know, like, sometimes, like, I know my creative
19:17
process was severely impacted by the break up because I just
19:23
So, like, how do you, what's your process like when you're
19:25
going, like, do you stop manufacturing?
19:27
My creative process was screwed during the relationship
19:31
Once I came back, I came back like Kog, I was like, OK, OK.
19:34
Are you on your even to?
19:38
Yeah, it's wonderful.
19:40
That's why I know Carol is gonna have a great career because
19:42
she speaks to all of us have been down.
19:44
I feel like you have to go through a breakup or through something
19:46
chaotic to have inspiration to come up with something dope
19:50
Like when you're in love, you're not thinking about it.
19:51
You're just cuddly laying there.
19:53
You know, is that what we're calling it now?
19:58
Are they kissing in the bed?
20:00
No, I think she actually means, oh, you mean doing his shit
20:11
But I'm back now and now I have so many more ideas because my
20:14
creative process was screwed.
20:16
But I think the best like Shakira, she came back stronger after
20:19
that and now look at her, she's making it.
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So do you, I feel like you referenced a lot of Latina women.
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Do you feel like that's really important?
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And in your, in the doll creation process in your business
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you very strong and then we're very vicious like mm All right
20:32
So I think this guest is a very Caito no more conversation about
20:36
culture and our relationship to it.
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I know that we all have a few things to say.
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So let's get into some questions.
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We cannot avoid when talking about culture.
20:45
It's all real talk in the next segment.
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So I'm gonna pull the first car just because I wanna be messy
20:59
and get our, our, our guests comfortable and, and feel free
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You know, to, I want you to be super vulnerable and open.
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Do you feel like your culture supported you growing up?
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I feel like my culture inspired me, you know, to draw into pain
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and to be motivated from the murals that I was seeing uh but
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supported me like in my career.
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No, because everybody around me was like, don't forget where
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I know where I come from.
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I don't wanna be here trapped.
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I'm trying to leave.
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I'll never forget my beginnings, but I don't wanna be stuck
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in my beginnings forever.
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This is not the choice I want to make.
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But my culture usually reminds me like, oh you're too expensive
21:34
You shouldn't be selling your doll for this much.
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So what should I sell it for $5?
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So when it comes to my career, I feel like my culture kind of
21:43
tries to bring me down.
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But I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
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And then the other side of my culture that honors art, they're
21:48
like Sam, they understand the value of give me this bear for
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You know, his name is Teddy PP for player P for pimp.
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Like if there's no sleep, we gotta give him a red flag on the
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other arm because he has a, a space but he needs from my culture
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Being Colombian, I didn't grow up with any Colombians my whole
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So I had nothing to support me.
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But being at home with my mom and dad who are very Colombian
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inspired me to be who I am like, be passionate, be driven, be
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out there and be, you know, speak my truth and stuff.
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But I don't think I had a lot of support for my culture because
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they were never around.
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What about the larger I think sometimes we get like really
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into the nitty gritty of the segments of the culture.
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But what about the larger Latino culture?
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Like and just in general, do you feel like I didn't have Latinos
22:35
surrounding me growing up at all?
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Except for my grandma, my mom, my dad.
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So it's just like I never had that.
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It was a very Caucasian American driven life.
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It was like code switch.
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It was like you were when it was the opposite.
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I had to, I, I assimilated to that culture without, you know
22:49
bringing my full potential sometimes because it was so different
22:53
I grew up in, I grew up in East LA.
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I grew up in East L A.
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My neighbor, my mother didn't speak full English because
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you don't, you don't need to in East L A or coma.
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Nobody speaks English in East L A.
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You know, only like all the second generation.
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But growing up culturally, yes, I had Mexicans everywhere
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Where did you grow up?
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Oh So there's a, there's a west and the east.
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It's giving the great guys.
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I feel like I wanna say today where I am, my culture stands behind
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me like the Dominic especially because I feel like I'm doing
23:29
something that's never been done there when I grew up.
23:31
Like growing up, I didn't know that stand up was a possibility
23:34
I didn't have any like we had like very like specific comedians
23:38
but we never, I never saw like a Dominican stand up.
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So I'm really like one of the first.
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So I feel like my culture is super behind that.
23:45
But you know, growing up, I don't feel like I don't, I didn't
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feel like I was always accepted by Latinas.
23:49
Like I feel like, you know, a lot of my friends are black.
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I'm in a black sorority.
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I just, I feel like Latina women were kind of mean to me growing
23:57
So I was like, fuck y'all bitches and this is, I know I'm just
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being honest and yeah, like I just feel like sometimes like
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no shade I'm gonna be, I'm gonna say something.
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Sometimes Latinas can have mean girl energy.
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I I don't, have you ever felt that?
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Of course, yeah, like it's just kind of like, oh you can't sit
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I'm like, bitch, you fuck with my friend and it just really
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it really broke my heart.
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So I just, I was like, I don't want anything to do with this.
24:17
So I kinda like, I didn't really start tapping some Latinidad
24:20
until like recently, like when I started comedy because it
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was more of a exploration.
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Comedy is an exploration of my identity and I can't explore
24:27
my identity if I don't go back to my roots.
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So lately I'm like, you know what, like, how can I, I found like
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what's the best way for me to live in this space without resentment
24:37
So I just went back and I, I've forgiven a lot of people like
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you know, people grow so I forgiving a lot of people for like
24:42
what they did to me.
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Um But right now today where I stand, I'm so proud to be a Dominican
24:47
comedian and the way the culture rallies behind me and Latinas
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I feel like, you know, it was the first time I did Latina Comedy
24:54
Festival and it felt really good to be like, wow.
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Like, I'm, I feel like, well, my sisters and I think Ivana and
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Jessica are a big part of that too where I'm like, you know,
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they make me feel accepted sometimes you just need people
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So it's a two way street.
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Let me ask question.
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Have you ever felt embarrassed by your culture?
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Oh, I'm honestly, I be having like a catch like it's a, it's
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a double side, it's a double edged edged sword.
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Like I know in the heights there are a lot of noise complaints
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about, you know, the music.
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I get that but il like that's just our culture like don't move
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to the heights if you don't like loud music.
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So I guess sometimes like when those conversations come up
25:31
in the news, I guess I get a, a little bit like, like are we supposed
25:35
to be a little bit submissive because new people are moving
25:37
into our spaces or can we, that's our culture?
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That's what the bars are.
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I mean, bitch, I'm a loud bitch.
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Yeah, I'm a loud bitch.
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I don't give a shit but I just feel like that is a little embarrassing
25:48
And I know that when growing up my grandfather used to sell
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Frios, I know that everyone has different.
25:53
It's like um I know the Puerto Ricans have a different name
25:56
But yeah, I guess that you know you make the juices with the
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ice and you put it in the, let's put a picture.
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But I used to be embarrassed because my grandfather would
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sell them like in the hood and I would go with them.
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I'm like, oh my God, people are gonna know we're selling for
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And I'll be like, I want to ask about so, but then you go, yeah
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you go back and you're like, yo, like my parents, my grandparents
26:21
are boss people and they're hustling.
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Yeah, I was gonna ask like, similarly your mom was working
26:28
in, in a lunch truck and you're working there at the time.
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Was that something that you were like?
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I, I would have to go like all of my childhood, I remember my
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childhood working in a lunch truck.
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Like if it was summer, it was either me in Mexico City with my
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family during the summer or working inside of a lunch truck
26:45
every day Monday through Saturday.
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So I will cut the vegetables, the onions.
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The during a vacation, vacation time was like for me either
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to work or go to Mexico City.
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So all my childhood, that's why I have good work ethics, work
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ethics because we grew up with me working with my mom making
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tacos and burrito, burritos, breakfast burritos, breakfast
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sandwiches, en cilla.
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I mean it was like a secret but now I can be like, yeah, I grew
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up in a taco truck before I would be like, that's what I was gonna
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Like, did you feel a little bit embarrassed at that moment
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We're in a time where being Mexican is dope like we, yeah, I
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feel like you, how you grew up?
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We are creating that world where we're like, hey, I'm here
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Honor me because our generation is doing that.
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We're not shaming from it for Colombians.
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Like growing up, I, I was embarrassed that the only thing that
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we were known for at the time was like, drugs and it was so, and
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all my friends, I'd be like, I'm Colombian.
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They're like, oh, you know, there was not one person that did
27:50
not say the C word and I was like, there is a series so much more
27:54
to our culture than that, that I'm embarrassed that you are
27:58
thinking that that's the truth.
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But now that if you're getting older, it's, it's changed a
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Luckily for, with music.
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And, and what did you feel that way?
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Because you're Colombian too?
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I mean, I grew up also, like, in an area where there wasn't diversity
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And I was like, I mean, we had already talked about another
28:11
episode but I was like, super bullied.
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So there was a point where in the South Bay area and going to
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school up there was really hard for me.
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I had to, like, go to school act something completely different
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Remember there was like no social media at that time.
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So I couldn't walk up the street and see people like me.
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I was really in my own little bubble.
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So I remember, you know, kids with girls would say such mean
28:33
things about the culture and say you look like a maid, gardeners
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are annoying, things like that.
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So I, you know, I felt a sense of whoa shame in a sense until I
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went to high school.
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And I started meeting so many more people that look like me
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came from a similar, similar background and I felt like I could
28:47
let my guard down, I could breathe and I could be like, no, this
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is, I love my culture.
28:52
Everybody has depending on how you were raised and the kind
28:54
of people around you, it really seriously shapes how you see
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yourself, how you see your culture, how you see, you know,
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where you come from.
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But I also think like you also have an opportunity to always
29:04
learn about your culture.
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Like I think some people, some people aren't like born with
29:08
their culture around them.
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But like there's, I think there's always a chance too.
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I just want to put that out there because I'm, I'm starting
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to do the work of like, OK, let me go do the history homework
29:21
So the next question is how much do you really know about your
29:24
Is anyone trying to revoke your culture card before we get
29:27
We're gonna go into a quick break, but we're gonna be right
29:32
This is little thy little thorny bought me a Bentley.
29:34
Let me tell you that much.
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When she dropped in 2017.
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I was like, no, she carried us girl.
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Sorry, sorry, restart.
29:45
We're back with girl.
29:46
Let me tell you and it's getting real.
29:48
But this guy has no more questions, Jessica, where did we leave
29:52
So we're talking about your culture card.
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If anybody has tried to revoke it or make you feel bad because
29:56
you said something or did something, I'm sure that's happened
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I know you're kind of telling us a little bit off camera.
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Let me uh oh my God, I take that.
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So I'm sorry, I'm sorry, jacket.
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But I gotta do this.
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I went to Mexico City.
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I was there for two months.
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I went through a break up in July and I was like cry in my bed or
30:18
just cry in Mexico City and learn to dance Cumbia.
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So while I'm out there a lot of Mexican people like in my area
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that I, that I grew up with my grandmother like Como to Espanol
30:28
How do you speak Spanish?
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So well, you're not Mexican, you're from over there.
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I'm like, oh no, no, I'm Mexican and they're like, but you're
30:33
not Mexican, you're from over there.
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I'm like, OK in America, in the US.
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I'm a Mexican and I'm proud to be Mexican and I really love that
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I dominate Spanish and that I speak Spanish to perfection
30:44
Me, us, Espanol, Meto, Mexicana, a famil for Mexicana.
30:49
And they're like, you're a pha and I'm like, oh we're gonna
30:52
fight, do all of our communities have a word for like, I guess
30:57
first generation Latino because mine is gringa.
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So when I go back to the RG, OK, that's maybe like, because we're
31:03
gonna say in be so it's pha and gringa.
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Whenever I go back to the r they'd be like, oh it, it sounds like
31:09
you learn Spanish or like in the United States, I'm like, and
31:12
I'll be trying like sometimes when I go back home like this
31:14
is the season I'm gonna be so Dominican and they can still tell
31:18
I'm like, you know what?
31:20
I'm doing the best I can to show up in the world, you know, but
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I think a lot of us have that experience of like the Spanish
31:25
Well, my Spanish is bad but I know, don't, don't, don't, don't
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I know, I know we're probably not, you're probably the best
31:36
I don't know Eza because my family buy this.
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No, because they make fun of my Spanish.
31:50
No, they wanna, they wanna revoke you by making fun of you laughing
31:54
like you every time, every time like I, I get into big arguments
31:58
with my family because every time I go visit they'll be like
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I'm La Pen and I'm like, you know what bitch, everybody fuck
32:03
I'll be at the house.
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I don't give because I'm, I'm trying and I hate when people
32:07
They were laughing at me when I was dancing Cumbia and I was
32:09
like, look to Para, no, it and they're like Colombians, the
32:15
green guys, they're like, oh it is gringa.
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They own the eighties.
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Oh and they start to speak English and then my parents get mad
32:21
because you go over there and you speak English.
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I'm not learning Spanish.
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So it's like a whole different reverse thing.
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I wonder so happy to have a like I wonder what it is about.
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Do you feel like in Mexico?
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It's not that type of relationship with people Del Norte,
32:32
you know that they don't wanna admire it.
32:36
They wanna shame it.
32:38
So here's what I did to everybody that I was around.
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I'm like, hey, if you wanna go, I could do you an invitation
32:42
letter if you ever wanna come to L A and they were like, yeah
32:45
I'm like, I get it like I just grew up out there.
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You know, I'm in America.
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We got Nikes to throw up in the air all day.
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You know, over there they're like, you know, saving for Nikes
32:56
you know, so I get it but I feel like it's like an angry thing
32:58
like, yeah, a little because everybody tries to gate, keep
33:04
a little bit on every level.
33:05
Like even if you, I think everybody tries to gatekeep the culture
33:08
a little bit because it, I think it's a little bit of a, of a pride
33:10
but also like protection.
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So I think everybody does it all.
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You wanna pick that last card for us?
33:15
We do, we, I'm done.
33:20
Have you ever excluded outsiders from your culture?
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Have you ever included them?
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No, I, I don't get this whole for me.
33:30
I just don't get the gatekeeping thing.
33:31
I'm like if I have friends that are maybe white Asian whatever
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Come to a family party.
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I don't see the issue.
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I feel like so happy.
33:39
It's gonna be a culture shock.
33:40
It's gonna be crazy.
33:41
Like included every single one of my friends into my family
33:44
parties, into Colombian breakfast, into eating chocolate
33:48
So they're like cheese in your chocolate.
33:50
And then the next week they're like, can we get some chocolate
33:53
Like New Year's parties?
33:54
Christmas parties, praying before Christmas.
33:56
Every little tradition that I've done that makes me so happy
33:59
All my friends, they're all like Caucasian American.
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Like, what about you OK.
34:06
I'll be honest, when I was in Mexico City, I went to the really
34:08
bougie areas and the area is changing.
34:12
The Mexicans are being pushed out, the little Taco stands
34:15
are being pushed out for yoga places for bougie restaurant
34:20
Polanco aja Condesa.
34:22
So I felt the little boy that's starting to enter, there was
34:27
And I'm like, oh, and I like business area of Mexico business
34:33
It's very, I think that that's the issue that I have with like
34:36
I mean, I like, for example, I'm producing an entire Dominican
34:39
comedy show and I, and I also do a lot, I do a lot for the comedy
34:43
I include everybody but sometimes you don't wanna have to
34:45
like, I know sometimes I would bring people to like a party
34:48
and I feel like I have to babysit like I'm like, hey, like I have
34:51
to explain every part.
34:53
Yeah, like, hey, my grandma is loud because this is how they
34:57
Don't call the cops.
34:58
And it's just kinda like sometimes you don't wanna explain
35:00
your culture to people.
35:01
I don't know if that makes any sense.
35:04
Yeah, like I think that I think our generation, are you first
35:07
Yeah, I think the first generation has the privilege of saying
35:10
hey, I feel a little bit more safe in these spaces because
35:13
we have assimilated.
35:14
But the I guess our family members, they're first, they're
35:17
the first ones to kind of, I feel like they're the gatekeepers
35:20
and we're like, yeah, let everybody in.
35:21
But then when you let everyone in things like what's happening
35:25
And I was literally like, I went for a latte and I paid like,
35:28
$7 not a latte, but that was like $7 for it.
35:31
When the latte in Mexico City should be like three bucks.
35:33
And I was like, but that could also be inflation.
35:38
No, I'm in a Colombian party.
35:41
And the people that someone from a different culture comes
35:43
in, like my aunts and uncles, they switch up to the, they're
35:46
That's what I'm saying.
35:47
Like everybody, they're all caring about what people think
35:49
Sometimes, you know what I mean?
35:51
And like switches it up when you're all by yourself and when
35:53
you're with a different culture, I have a ca a caucasian boyfriend
35:57
and I took him to Mexico City and we were like dancing and, and
36:00
he was just like, I'm like, you need to get up.
36:03
That, that's what I'm OK.
36:04
That's what I also want say is I love bringing people into my
36:07
culture and even dating outside my culture.
36:09
But you have to choose I think and be very aware of who you're
36:13
If it be judgmental, throw yourself out there, somebody that's
36:21
down to like, just be involved and you don't feel like you're
36:23
babysitting you tell somebody you want, I'm aware of that
36:28
Like I have certain friends where I'm like this girl, she's
36:29
gonna do fine in this environment.
36:31
You know, this girl is gonna be like awkward and feel like,
36:34
yeah, weird or out of place.
36:36
It just depends on who you bring around.
36:37
I think, I think we agree.
36:39
There's a fine line between like just integrating everybody
36:43
being involved And I don't know what I'm saying.
36:45
Ivana, you close it out.
36:46
We want to know what's, what's next for you and what you got
36:50
going on because I know that you can't stay in one place too
36:55
So at Chelas Mundial said, I heard San is releasing some wine
37:01
I think we've been a little on edge.
37:09
Is it like a breakup package?
37:12
So I wanna get like, I wanna try this wine though for real.
37:16
Here's where we're going next.
37:17
This is little stony.
37:19
I remember at least little Stoney.
37:21
This was a while ago.
37:22
Little Stoney bought me a Bentley.
37:23
Let me tell you that much when she dropped in 2017.
37:27
I was like, I remember the stoner doll take care of me.
37:35
She, I always honor her.
37:37
She looks like you, girl.
37:40
I, you Little Stony Rose.
37:43
Can you tell us how this came about, please?
37:46
So I'm doing a collaboration with a big winery, a big company
37:51
And I was like, I do like drinking champagne, sparkling wine
37:56
And they were like, hey, um, do you wanna work on doing your
38:00
And I was like, oh, like Jenny.
38:03
And I was like, yes, I went to Loai California and I sat there
38:08
and just tasted a bunch of wines, a bunch of different things
38:11
Really, I was bumping sad music, tasting wines and I decided
38:17
to go with this, but it's a garage grape.
38:20
It's made in California and it's a sparkling wine.
38:23
This is when it's a rose, it's not bitter, it's not like dry
38:26
it's really sweet and bubbly and smooth.
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And when does this, this is gonna drop in liquor stores?
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I was gonna ask, is it liquor stores?
38:35
Like is it actually I can go to like any bed mall or something
38:38
We're working on getting it is at the scene.
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Yeah, this is really bad ass.
38:51
They can go into any store now.
38:52
So right now we're working on doing the distribution so they
38:55
could be like, I don't know, like a big liquor store in the hood
38:58
They gotta be in the hood from L A.
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I think there's a great segue.
39:04
I think it's time for us to have a drink too.
39:07
I'm a little, what's that thing when you socials?
39:10
Oh San Warner Sandon.
39:17
Let's pop this bottle.
39:21
We have never popped a bottle.
39:24
We've never had a drink together.
39:25
So we're popping my bottle today.
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Thank you because I think we deserve it.
39:37
It actually like popped.
39:40
Did we get that on camera?
39:43
Well, San Juan, thank you for letting us be your first taste
39:47
We got a $50 wine bottle here, Girls Night is gonna be, it's
39:52
Well, we gotta taste it first but I think I think we'll prove
39:55
Yeah, we're getting glasses coming up.
39:57
We're gonna have a drink and just so much more conversation
40:02
How do you get your white boyfriend to try cultural foods?
40:05
If he's not trying your cultural food, he shouldn't be a man
40:08
like that's part of the relationship.
40:09
So if he's kissing you, he's already trying cultural food
40:12
What's up everybody?
40:13
We're here still sipping on San sparkling wine.
40:18
You guys when it drops, we're gonna do that fresca a later time
40:23
and maybe we'll have it the first time.
40:25
Yeah, let's track our growth.
40:26
I have cut outs of these beau I mean of their beautiful faces
40:30
Wow, look at this homemade and we're gonna answer some questions
40:36
You guys just be honest, be yourselves.
40:38
You know, like I'm not gonna be offended.
40:39
Am I gonna be offended?
40:41
Who learned the most from this conversation?
40:43
Who do I think, learn the most?
40:45
Pro maybe me, honestly, me too.
40:47
That's what I think I feel like maybe I was gonna put you.
40:50
I think who, who me putting Jessica?
40:53
Yeah, I think actually you're right.
40:59
What did you learn in particular?
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I just, I learned about, you know what I learned I was having
41:04
honestly, I'm trying to think about things that I took away
41:06
I think people's different perspectives.
41:08
I learned about your perspective.
41:10
I think like that's like the biggest thing because I can live
41:12
in my existence over here in my bubble over here.
41:14
But truthfully, I don't know what you go through on a day to
41:16
day that you were really strong about the culture.
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I mean, I, I learn a lot from you.
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Is that what you plan about Dominicans and La during bingo
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Number two, who was the VP of the I, I was with 100% in East L A
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has her own wine company.
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She, I mean, she literally has made something out of art.
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How hard is it to get people to actually care about your art
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Care about what you do.
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It's hard to do and it's so solidified in L A culture.
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So she's so unapologetic herself that it's so beautiful to
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see because nobody could touch her and her first dog got her
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a Bentley and she's getting breaking barriers that like Latinos
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I like, I like relating to her story about um working with her
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mom because I feel like that was really dope like, and then
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her mom is in the studio today.
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I think it's so dope to that like full circle moment of like
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yo, we was hustling together and now I'm here.
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So I really enjoy that.
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Me and Yvonne are gonna break away and me and Yvonne are gonna
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be sipping on this wine and answering community questions
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All right, let's see what's going down in the hot t baby.
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I heard that the people have a lot to say in the comments.
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So our audience wants to know this is the hot question.
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How do you get your white boyfriend to try cultural foods?
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If he's not trying your cultural food?
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He shouldn't be a man like that's part of the relationship
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So if he's kissing you, he's already trying and called you
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah, I like your answer better.
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Well, I don't think, I don't think it's that hard to, to Yeah
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I Yeah, I've, I've made food for my white ex meat loaf.
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And what do you guys think about interracial dating?
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I think interracial dating is beautiful.
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I think as long as we respect each other's boundaries and really
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going with an open mind.
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Any relationship is about having an open mind.
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Fuck the world, date, whoever you wanna date.
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Even if that's you bad bunny.
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Who asked that question?
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Well, today was fun.
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This is, you know, the episode of Me too TV.
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I'm gladly, Mora, I'm Jessica and this is girl.
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