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Latina Beauty Standards

Guest TikToker Saul Gomez shares how he's navigating his "Healing Era" and Ivana's bestie, Franchesca Agramonte, joins to explore everything from lunar phases to body type programming.
Show transcript
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Every time I go out, I'm like, OK, let me get a cute little Instagram
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picture and once I don't like it with the filter, I just don't
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want to leave the house.
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I'm like, why do I look like that?
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Everything that was presented to us was like thin, tall blonde
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If you were not that you were not it.
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And some people are like, you're not fat, you, you're not chubby
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or you're not.
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And I'm like, OK, I know I'm not but I'm comparing myself to
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the best version that I have felt to myself.
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Don't be coming to me at that gym.
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Shit.
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Like I like someone that's like, let's go for a walk, walk the
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dog to the ice cream place.
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Yes, I will.
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You're bullying me.
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Cheers everybody.
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Welcome to another episode.
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I'm so happy to be.
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We're so happy that you're kicking.
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I'm so happy that you guys invited me.
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So what's going on with you?
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So you got that fuck bucket hat on.
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I'm actually my healing era.
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You heal.
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Are you, you're going to break somebody's heart?
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I'm tired of just I think I'm ready for love.
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I'm not going to lie.
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You are.
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How old are you?
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I feel like you've been ready for love.
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I think I have.
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And you've just been in bad situations.
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I've been in bad situations and I choose the wrong girl.
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What makes you say you're ready for love?
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I think before it was, I've always wanted love, but I just didn't
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have time.
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But now I kind of have my schedule figured out and I'm like,
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ok, I do have time for this.
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Who is saul in a relationship so we can maybe get you somebody
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out here.
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What happened?
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Who are you in a relationship?
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What makes you think that you're going to be a good boyfriend
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I'm very, I think I'm confident in myself.
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This has nothing to do with the other person.
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I feel like we're saying he's confident in myself and then
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I'll be like, I feel like all my trust issues are gone and I guess
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the way that you did that I don't believe you.
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Ok.
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What are you looking for in a woman?
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Hard working for sure.
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So, what's your type?
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Just that when I was you out there when I was in my twenties?
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I was looking for shadow things like that.
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What about thoughtfulness and the person you can talk to that
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can really, well, that's the thing.
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I kind of want to get a dog because I don't really have no one
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to talk to.
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But he's right.
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Help me rating us on our podcast.
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They have no other choice but to listen and talking about dogs
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That's actually the story I wanted to tell you guys about.
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So, um, don't judge me for this story.
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I, I don't really tell it because of me.
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I don't.
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Ok, cool.
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So you, you might not mind this story but a while ago, uh, I was
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dating this girl and, uh, I really liked her.
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Like, we're pretty close, we're just not boyfriend girl,
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but we're like pretty much girlfriend, girlfriend.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So, um, I was leaving her house one morning and, um, I accidentally
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ran over her dog and killed it.
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What?
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I don't know, what is that kind of podcast you got to go, but
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I'm not even done.
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So I told her I was so not expecting this.
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I need a moment.
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It was a shih-tzu.
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So I, so I told her I accidentally created.
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So here's my dilemma.
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So I told her that I accidentally left the gate open and that
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he ran away.
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What's better telling her I killed the dog or the dog ran away
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or, I don't know, you, you told her lady, where did you put the
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dogs?
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So, in her backyard and you buried the dog in her backyard.
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So not only did you kill her dog?
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You trespassed?
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I was already in her house.
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I was leaving her house.
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You were off premises.
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I wasn't off premises.
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I was leaving the driveway.
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So I was still on.
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Yeah, I was still on property.
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So now my dilemma was like, yo, do I tell her that?
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Should I told her?
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Should I have told her that the dog run away?
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Do I tell her that I run over the dog?
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She was very sad that her dog ran away.
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Ok.
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Have you ever confessed to her?
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You're lying.
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She's going to see this.
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You can't date men.
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Shout out to Ernie.
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I incriminated myself.
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You got to get out of here first and Formost.
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Yeah.
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Come in.
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We love you.
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I hope not.
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But you know what is that?
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This is my, one of my best friends with girl time.
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This is time.
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I'm a fan of Francesco.
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I know I met her.
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Well, first of all, I'm a fan of the show and you know, whatever
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my bestie is doing, I got to see who her new friends are.
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No, I'm that kind of, I'm that friend.
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I don't mind.
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I got to see who my friends are with.
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Yes, but you're actually really funny.
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So yeah, she, she approved.
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I love Ivano.
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I do.
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I love you.
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Why do you not believe me?
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You ain't got to LA.
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I do love her.
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Where's my camera?
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It's a hard love but it's worth it.
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Thank you.
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I'm wearing her ring so it's hot.
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It is hot in here.
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I think I heard about the temperature, the hottest days in
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temperature in New York.
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I thought it was always as hot.
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I've seen a video like in Arizona, cars are literally like
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melting, like things are melting out there.
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Do you know what my friend said that in Florida, the water is
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100 degrees the ocean, ocean.
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Do you know how scary that is?
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That is right.
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Even if you want to run to some sort of safe, cool off.
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There's not so you catch on fire.
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That's the end of the world Bible Book of Revelations that
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cheers ladies.
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I'm so happy days to the final days.
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But wouldn't you want to spend your last days on earth with
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your homegirls is what would you guys do?
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Like if somebody was like, you have like 24 hours to read you
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live it up like what would you guys do with your home?
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Freezing your eggs?
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No, I'm calling my ex free.
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I'm unblocking him and letting him know you ain't shit.
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No, you're going to tell me you love him.
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Probably.
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Yeah.
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You know me 24 hours left on our goal.
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Would you do?
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Honestly, my family is really fun.
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So I'm just going to kick it with my family.
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We're going to party and I'm from Florida.
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So we had a lot of hurricanes.
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We had a lot of moments where we're like, is this it Yeah.
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Yeah, I would probably eat like some really good steak, eat
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something delicious.
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I mean, I feel like it would get to me though, I'd be like, wow
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what's going to happen in 24 hours?
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I try to enjoy it.
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But, oh my gosh, there's a lot of anxiety.
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I can't sit there and say I'm going to comfortably eat a steak
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You know what I mean?
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Like I'm shaking, I'm like putting the sauce on it.
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Like, you know what I mean?
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Ivanna.
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What are you doing?
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II, I really, you asked the question?
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I know.
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I was thinking of all these fun things and I was like, if it was
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really happening, I would be like, no, like so sad.
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I think probably didn't you guys feel this during COVID?
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Like when it first happened for like a day after the three week
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It was like, oh, wait a minute, this is real.
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It was like an A I also, I just want to shout out to the apocalypse
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Shout out to the audience who has been watching us.
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Francesca is one of the people is that and we want, we see you
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guys ask about our signs and it might happen for you.
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We're talking about, they're asking about our signs.
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And so I'm curious Capricorn, wait, let's do the big three
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Capricorn and I've never taken the test.
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I really don't know.
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This is the sats of life.
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I'm not tapped into my astrology.
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Astronomy astrology.
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I took astrology in college or maybe it was astronomy.
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Do you know where Jupiter is that?
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Do you know?
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I know where Jupiter is.
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Where is it?
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Is the brightest star in the sky?
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The not Saturn.
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No, it's Jupiter.
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Do you know where you don't play with me?
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It's in my back but it's in your back.
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But I have learned about, but I'm a Gemini son, Pisces.
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Moon Pisces rising Torres, Venus Mars Aries.
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So there's a lot of crying going on.
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I cry a lot.
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Yeah, I cried last night.
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Why?
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I'd be sad sometimes I don't put it on to the world because somebody
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didn't text me back.
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Mind your business.
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People are sensitive these days.
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It's a little bit deeper.
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I don't want to take up the whole hour.
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But somebody was mean to me and I'm crying.
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But, you know, it, it was also like a big super Aquarius full
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moons had to let go stuff and I'm just letting go parts of my
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old self.
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So, what does that mean?
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Aquarius?
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Full moon, full moons.
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So today go out, look at the moon.
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It's, there's 30 days out of the month and I was horribly because
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there's a lot of math, there's 30 days in the month, right?
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A moon has a full cycle just like we have a full cycle.
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That's where we get our ps once a month.
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So when there's a no moon or a full moon, when it's a new moon
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there's no moon, it's just like a little form and then as the
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days go by, it gets, it gets fuller and fuller and fluent.
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So it's a full moon.
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And what does that?
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And that affects your day?
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So when they say set your intentions on the new moon, you say
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OK, so it's a fresh start.
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It's a new moon.
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I have these 67 things that I want to accomplish by the full
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moon of the month, month.
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And it's actually really connected to our system, our bodies
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a lot of people get their pee on their full moon.
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Like it's energy is so strong.
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It's all I had no idea about any of this.
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Wait, I didn't know there's like something as like moon water
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Have you guys heard that?
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Like when there's like a full moon, you set like some water
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out in your balcony and then you let it recharge it.
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I don't believe in any of that, but I've heard no, but the moon
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it's not believing in it or not.
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It just, it, it's literally actually energy.
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Like our body energy, the moon is, it's really strong.
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That's why it lights up the whole sky.
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That's why the water gets in the, in the ocean starts moving
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more.
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So it's just kind of like a cycle of life that's natural for
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mother nature.
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You have way better than I would.
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Yeah, that was really well explain that it has to do with like
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hocus pocus spirituality.
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It's real life, it's science, it's real energy and the moon
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and the stars in the skies.
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It's, it's, it's the universe and that's what we are.
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We are the universe.
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It's the weirdest thing about our bodies.
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We're made of the same things as everything in the universe
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And you know what?
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That's why that's going to the topic of like, what we're talking
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about today is like, we're all perfect in our own selves just
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because we're made out of like stardust, we're made out of
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the atoms.
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We, we're, we can't help what we look like, but we had to learn
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how to love ourselves.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Before we get off topic, you finish your signs and then we're
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going to talk about us.
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I am a Cancer Libra rising.
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Taurus something Taurus moon.
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Is that what it is?
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And what are you?
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I am a Libra.
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So Cancer Moon and Aries rising.
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I think I'm a cancer moon.
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I think somebody told me that winter moon because I remember
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we talked about how we were compatible.
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We all have compatible moon signs.
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Our signs are kind of opposite.
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That's why we get along so well.
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I believe in the astrology stuff.
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I do.
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I do.
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I feel like it helped me understand.
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I mean, everything is just tools, right?
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Everything that you know, when you started in radio, like
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you started in radio, you do all these things.
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They're just tools that you're acquiring for whatever you're
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going into the future to better understand ourselves, you
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know, nothing to do with like choosing black or white.
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It's just take what resonates with you.
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So everybody make sure you drop your zodiac signs in the group
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chat so we can judge you put in the comments anyways.
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Speaking of women, why do you feel like it's easier to compliment
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other women than it is to be nice to yourself?
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Like, do you ever find yourself on your way out?
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Like I know every time I go out, I'm like, OK, let me get a cute
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little Instagram picture and once I don't like it with the
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filter, I just don't want to leave the house.
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I'm like, why do I look like that?
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There's layers to this, you know, I mean, if you grew up in the
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nineties, which I did everything that was presented to us
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was like thin tall blonde.
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If you were not that you were not, you were not shown, you were
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not represented at all.
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Straight hair.
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You guys don't know the work I have done on my hair with myself
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and it's all because we've been programmed to think certain
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things and not to sound too fluffy Duffy, but it really is that
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we were programmed to believe that a certain thing was better
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than the other.
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And now I think we're just undoing it.
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I think it has so much to do with internally loving yourself
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because there's so many moments in your life where you could
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just do the inner work and everything from the outside is beautiful
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just because you feel beautiful inside.
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I know it sounds so, but it's true.
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Do you think times have gotten better though in regards to
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that?
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I feel like it has just because it social media now I feel like
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I see a lot more representation of the black and brown girls
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I feel a lot more prettier.
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I don't feel like I have to be a certain thing anymore.
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I just have to really be confident, which I think that there's
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more exposure to different body types, different skin colors
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different nationalities and stuff.
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But I also think that there's so much judgment and the filters
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and the plastic surgery and the Botox and the fillers like
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all these things like we're trying to just, I mean, we're trying
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to keep up with each other and the issue is, is like, I feel like
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sometimes even as women, we can't even keep up with ourselves
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because we, we were all taking, I was taking videos earlier
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with the filter like not even gonna lie like the VHS one and
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I'm like, wow.
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And I actually looked at you and I was like, girl do I look like
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this in person?
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You get self conscious because you can't even, she doesn't
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look like this in real life, you know, but you, you get self
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conscious about that because you get so used to seeing yourself
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on social media like maybe with the filter or maybe a little
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bit edited and you get self conscious all the time.
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It's like you can't even keep up with yourself.
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Sometimes it feels like I think the first time I used the filter
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I put it on and I didn't like it.
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I didn't feel prettier the first time.
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And then I also, no, I don't ever use them because I do really
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I just don't like them and I don't want to also mess with my
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brain, you know, because I know that it happens, that'll be
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on that filter.
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I like and I tell myself, oh, it's just me with makeup online
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so it's not, it's harmless.
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And then when you take it off, I'm like, oh my God, where did
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all this double chin come from?
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It'd be so crazy.
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I'd be so mean to myself.
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I've gotten really mean I feel like when it comes to criticizing
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ourselves, we each have a standard for ourselves and some
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people are like, you're not fat or you're not chubby or you
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And I'm like, ok, I know I'm not in the grand scheme of things
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but I'm comparing myself to the best version that I have felt
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in myself.
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Like when I am healthy and I am fit and I am putting in the work
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to feel good because when you feel good, you could feel it like
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it's surging through your body, you start glowing from it
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So it's not that I'm critical.
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I just know like, when I feel the best, when I'm the healthiest
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and I want to get there and I'm not there.
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You nailed it because you're right.
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Sometimes I feel weird saying out loud like, oh, gosh, I feel
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like I gained weight because then, yeah, you have people that
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are like, yeah, well, I think you look great and it's like,
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I totally get that.
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I'm not saying I don't, I, I think I look good but I know I'm not
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at the best of my potential and that's every, we're all on our
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own.
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We're like, we're comparing ourselves to what we know we could
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be or what we've been in the past.
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You know what I mean?
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I definitely, um, I've gained a lot of weight.
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Um, I know, I know you're going to tell me on Beautiful Stop
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I've gained a lot of weight.
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Have you back on the podcast?
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I like that energy.
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No, but I think it was like post panem.
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I know during the pandemic, I gained £20 but then I just never
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went back to the gym and now I'm at 200.
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You can't talk a lot of it is in my butt.
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I know that's what I know.
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But I just want to say you guys don't see it on camera, but it
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is incredible.
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You can eat a meal on it in the best way possible.
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It has it back.
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But then I just feel like I will go shop especially.
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I've been having a lot of issues when I go shopping for office
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for the episode because I'm like, you know, I'm still bi coastal
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and I'm still packing my bags and I've been back and forth,
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but I don't have a lot of my staple items so that when I go shopping
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I'm like, nothing fits and I had a meltdown in the fitting room
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a few weeks ago.
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I'm know, I'm a comedian but I'm serious.
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I was crying up in there.
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Like, first of all this light is ugly.
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Do you want me to buy all the light?
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The light at TJ Maxx?
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I will never try anything on ever again in my life.
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Lighting in those fitting rooms, you guys, you can see every
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little wrinkle crinkle stretch marks.
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I find myself sometimes like poking, poking things out of
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my face and it's like try the clothes and I think you would sell
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so much more clothes if you just the light in there.
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I like to see everything but it's so true.
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Dim the light.
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No, but I've been having a lot of issues with my weight right
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now.
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That's why I like, you know, for this episode, I'm going to
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show other parts of my body because I love myself.
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But it's also like what you wear.
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Like I started to learn that as you get a little bit more mature
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and your woman years, you find what works for you.
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And I'm just having a hard time, but I love myself.
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I love myself.
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I'm just having a hard time understanding what's happening
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And I'm like, OK, is there an underlying health issue?
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Whatever I'm like.
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So I'll let you know in three weeks when I go to the doctor, I
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think with every woman there's e and flows with their bodies
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I fluctuate so much like I will look back at a moment in my life
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where I thought I was over like chubby and I've looked so skinny
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and I'm like, wait at that moment, I was so hard on myself and
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then I'm, but then I look at myself now and I think it has really
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so much to do with internally like loving yourself because
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there's so many moments in your life where you could just do
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the inner work and, and everything from the outside just is
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beautiful just because you feel beautiful inside.
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I know it sounds so corny, but it's true.
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But once you start doing it, you make it a practice.
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You're like, oh, this does work.
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I have to do.
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I have to unlearn what I've been telling myself my whole life
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I'm working on it.
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I don't know if that's working.
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And I think I remember I said this one time on another podcast
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What did you say again?
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But I was like, dude, imagine if the voice in your head was a
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roommate you were living with and I was like and all the whole
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time you're just saying, like I said, that's the first chapter
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of the book that I read was that and then I think I repeat the
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un soul, no untethered soul.
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That was the first chapter about, imagine if the bad you, I'm
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not taking credit for that.
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You would, you would be taking credit for that.
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I said that and I read that book.
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I didn't say I read that book.
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I be saying, I think I had mentioned this earlier but I really
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talk about it.
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I want to know but talk to yourself.
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Now when it comes to other women, do you find yourself like
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I guess it's a little bit harder in L A because everyone's
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in their car.
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But in New York, whenever I see a woman that looks really beautiful
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especially when she's black or brown and she has braids.
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I always let her know.
19:00
You look good.
19:00
Are you guys honest with your friends too though?
19:02
If something doesn't look good or whatever my friend look
19:05
I appreciate my friend that tells me baby, you are not a medium
19:07
anymore.
19:08
And that's a hard conversation.
19:10
That's really hard because I'm a medium.
19:13
Oh, not a medium, a medium.
19:15
I thought you, you sure you don't believe in the stars.
19:22
It's not your brain was there.
19:24
That's what I was thinking.
19:26
I thought she was like a medium at no point.
19:28
Sometimes when you go shopping with your friends you got to
19:30
let them know politely baby.
19:31
I don't, you can try the small if you want, but I think a medium
19:35
might fit you better.
19:36
And that's why, you know, you have real friends like my friend
19:38
She's like, yo, sometimes you got to try the two X.
19:40
I mean for me that starts at my house, my mom will tell me in a
19:45
heartbeat if I look chubby, if she was to Cuerpo like everything
19:50
she just tell.
19:51
Like, if I'm getting chubby, my sisters will tell me if I'm
19:53
if I'm looking out like they will tell me off that.
19:56
So I never took it offensively because I was like, ok, well
19:59
they love me.
20:00
They know when I look good.
20:01
They know when I look, you know, when I'm not taking care of
20:04
myself, my mom would tell me this.
20:06
There was a moment when I was like, really eating unhealthy
20:08
in college again like this F-15 and I was partying, I just wasn't
20:11
healthy.
20:12
And my mom was like, you don't love yourself.
20:15
And I was like, you Colombian, you don't love yourself.
20:17
I'm like, yes I do.
20:18
She's like, if you love yourself, you wouldn't be eating that
20:21
you wouldn't be drinking, that you'd be working out.
20:23
You wouldn't be sitting around and just what are you doing
20:25
You're wasting your, your youth, your life.
20:27
And I was like, I do love myself, whatever.
20:30
And I walk away, roll my eyes and then I would sit in my room and
20:32
be like, she's kind of right.
20:34
I'm not taking care of this myself.
20:37
It's like a vessel that having fun.
20:39
But I'm poisoning my body and I know that I've gained weight
20:44
because I am not, I just haven't had the chance to take her.
20:46
You've been traveling so much.
20:47
I, I'm stressed out.
20:49
My cycle is all over the place.
20:52
I'm just like, I'm still breaking up.
20:54
I'm going over two heartbreaks right now.
20:56
Um It's just a lot.
20:58
So I know that I've gained weight, eating all that ice cream
21:00
Ok.
21:00
So what is, if you can have, I'm OK with it because I love myself
21:05
regardless.
21:06
I really do.
21:07
What have you done to be so confident in yourself?
21:10
And like, because you really do, I mean, I think we all love
21:13
ourselves just to anent but like you are, you're the em, I'm
21:18
fascinated.
21:18
You might as well.
21:19
I think that you recognize the things you don't like but you're
21:22
still, but with all this, there's nothing you can do.
21:25
You can either sit in the moment and be dwelling like, oh my
21:28
God or you can be like, hey, I always say to myself, this is where
21:30
you are right now.
21:31
How do you get to the next step?
21:32
I, I just can't lose £20 tomorrow, but I can start putting things
21:37
into effect that I'm like, ok, it's not about anybody else's
21:39
for myself because I just want to where my titties are more
21:42
So it's just for that.
21:44
Right.
21:44
But how did you get to that though?
21:46
How did you get to that?
21:48
I think it was stand up, stand up.
21:49
You have to force yourself to deal with yourself.
21:52
I'm dealing with all of my traumas every day.
21:54
I'm listening to my set every single day.
21:57
So I'm like, I have to go up there being confident.
21:59
Now, one thing that I'm having an issue with, I don't put my
22:02
stand up clips because I don't like the way I look sometimes
22:04
in these videos.
22:05
So I'm still dealing with that.
22:07
See, that's something, it's an issue.
22:09
I'm like, I don't post any of my videos.
22:11
I'm like, did you stop doing stand up?
22:12
No, I don't like the way I look right now.
22:14
But that's the thing with Instagram.
22:15
It's like you're only posting your highlight reel.
22:18
And so that's what the next step is, is like, well, I'm not going
22:21
to do it either.
22:22
And then now we're only posting the best thing we can come up
22:24
with and it took us 700 pictures to get to the one and then everybody's
22:28
seeing just that one.
22:29
They don't see the 700.
22:30
So then they're comparing themselves to that one for me and
22:34
for me, Francesca has one of the most beautiful bodies I've
22:36
ever seen in my life.
22:37
I mean, just Naturally Dominican, I mean, in all ways, but
22:41
you also have had moments where you don't feel good enough
22:44
I'm like Francesco Morphia is set up.
22:48
No, during COVID, she got like, why you gotta bring the most
22:52
be like she was, she got thicker in the most beau in my eyes the
22:55
most beautiful way in the world, like thicker, just like in
22:57
a healthier way.
22:58
Like she was just indulging having fun.
23:00
Like, you know, we couldn't go out on the street so we were working
23:03
out.
23:04
But I saw her like in every form just I've seen her in every,
23:08
in every form and it's the most beautiful thing in the world
23:11
to me because I know her soul and it doesn't matter because
23:13
she's so confident in her love toward everybody.
23:16
So I'm like, this is amazing because she rocks it.
23:19
Even if I think that for me, it's so important that wherever
23:22
you're at in your journey with your body just to be confident
23:27
in your spirit and who you are.
23:28
And then when you do that, everyone else feels that doesn't
23:30
matter.
23:31
You were a trash bag you can and, and if you're happy and you're
23:34
showing your energy, people are attracted to that.
23:37
But if you are feeling the worst thing is, is when you look at
23:40
a picture and you're like, wow, I look beautiful when you think
23:44
back to that day and you're like, I felt like crap.
23:47
I talk so nasty to myself all day.
23:49
And so now I'm completely trying to do the opposite.
23:52
Even when I don't feel good, I'm like, you look great girl.
23:54
And I just want to say as someone that's a little bit thicker
23:57
sometimes it's just you don't know your angles, that's all
24:00
that it comes down to.
24:00
I'm like, I need to learn how to work the camera because sometimes
24:03
it's just an angle, you look fine.
24:04
Apple is just against you right now.
24:07
But if you can just put it in the right angle, you're going to
24:09
be fine because we are really mean.
24:11
I am so mean to myself, I don't even post on my Instagram.
24:14
I just post tweets.
24:15
I'm like, you don't need to see my face.
24:16
Just remember the last time you thought I was beautiful.
24:19
That's why, that's why I think that when you said if the nineties
24:22
is better than now, that's why I think it's back is the comparison
24:25
that there's all these women on Instagram like 66 packs.
24:29
I mean, they're doing the work.
24:30
It's incredible.
24:31
It's inspiring and you don't feel that way.
24:33
Then that's when you start comparing yourself in a way and
24:36
sometimes it's not even nice.
24:37
Sometimes it's edited, sometimes it's plastic surgery,
24:39
whatever it might be.
24:40
And again, I'm like, you know, people can do what they want
24:42
in regard plastic surgery, but again, a lot of it isn't natural
24:45
So if you aren't born that way, don't be so hard on yourself
24:48
And also you've seen those videos of like influencers where
24:50
they're posing and then they're like, this is actually what
24:54
it is or these are just the type of leggings I'm wearing at the
24:56
gym.
24:57
And I'm like, oh, I love influencers like that or content creator
25:00
like that.
25:00
I'm like, wow, that is so real.
25:04
And you find yourself just chuckling at it.
25:06
You're like, wow, that was so dumb of me to do that.
25:08
We all do that.
25:08
We all have a little trick for me.
25:10
I wear Tufa houses sometimes.
25:12
Like today I have Tufa houses.
25:14
One of them is a post surgery fa yeah, I've never had a Colombian
25:19
But the best things will, you know, when you get, when you have
25:23
to go, like, I don't mind looking like this, but sometimes
25:26
they have like an event where, you know, you're going to run
25:27
into someone that you haven't seen in years.
25:29
So one time I went to a wedding and I was like, oh my God, I don't
25:32
want these people to see me and think I let myself go.
25:34
So I bought the FAHA and baby that Faha took up 10 years.
25:39
The trauma.
25:40
I want to be the person that gets up super early in the morning
25:43
and goes on a run when you show up as yourself, your mental health
25:46
no matter what goes up.
25:47
That's why I'm such a big believer in like morning routines
25:50
breathe, pray, whatever it is that you want go on a run man
25:53
like show up as the woman you want to be, which comes to the
25:56
topic of plastic surgery and in plastic enhancements of the
25:59
body.
26:00
Do you guys, do you believe in that?
26:02
Do you do it?
26:02
Do you look for a long time?
26:04
I was like, I want to be natural but baby, the way that my stomach
26:06
is going, I don't mind getting a little suck.
26:11
It's also very big in our Dominican culture and Colombian
26:14
and Mexican.
26:14
And you see your, you're like before this became a mainstream
26:18
thing.
26:18
I remember my aunt would be like, I'm going to dr we all knew
26:20
that she was going to get a tummy tuck.
26:22
It wasn't a secret and now it's like a thing.
26:24
It's like it was like a rite of passage and it's my turn.
26:27
This is for me.
26:28
I need a tummy tuck for me.
26:30
When it comes to that stuff.
26:31
I don't judge because I think that if you, if you, if, if, if
26:36
the way you see yourself in the mirror, you don't like a certain
26:38
thing and you, and you want to fix it or enhance it and it's making
26:42
you feel better and you happier, then go for it, go for it.
26:45
There's, there's a fine line between that and then going overboard
26:48
and like having body dysmorphic.
26:52
You remember that girl Heidi?
26:53
I don't like bringing up names.
26:54
Remember the oc.
26:54
There was this girl, she was like, yeah, and then she did so
26:58
much surgery and I think I always thought she was gorgeous
27:02
without the surgery.
27:03
I'm like, I think, like you said, if you want to do it because
27:05
you feel like is this going to make you more confident or feel
27:08
more comfortable, go for it.
27:10
But if you're doing it for external validation, I can only
27:12
imagine it was the first time she was probably on TV.
27:14
And she didn't like the way she looked.
27:16
It's just kind of like, I'm always big on the fact, like, I don't
27:19
want to do anything that's reversible.
27:20
So, you know, there are some things I was thinking about that
27:23
I was like, you know what, it feels like a slippery slope.
27:26
That's what I was going to say, get addicting.
27:28
And as a believer, I think that God definitely did make us a
27:32
specific way.
27:33
And I think the issue is, is sometimes we want to control things
27:36
that are out of our control.
27:37
There's things you can do to make to better your body, which
27:40
is eating healthy, working out.
27:43
Obviously, it's harder said than done, but to try to fix it
27:47
to put a band aid on the issue by going to a but what about people
27:50
that they work their butts off literally and they don't have
27:53
a butt.
27:53
Of course, that's a, that's a different scenario.
27:56
But I know that like, for example, I've seen people in my family
27:59
who got the lap band surgery where they cut your stomach.
28:03
Now it's the size of your fist and then post surgery.
28:07
Their lifestyle doesn't align with what you just did to your
28:11
body.
28:12
And so it's like, now I'm watching people run to the bathroom
28:14
and throw up mid meal because it's just not align.
28:18
And so I think that's a lot of it is.
28:22
It has to be like a full transformation, including your mind
28:25
you know, your habits, things like that because you're right
28:29
like the maintenance, I mean, you know, because your dad
28:31
is an incredible doctor, like the maintenance after has to
28:33
align with what you, a lot of people think it's an easy fix and
28:36
they come, they're like, ok, well, I'm going to get Lipo and
28:39
my life is going to change and then two months after their lifestyle
28:43
didn't change and they're gaining weight and they're blaming
28:45
it on.
28:45
They're like, well, that didn't work because you have to,
28:49
you have to match your outside and your inside.
28:51
You have to love yourself, take care of yourself and that's
28:54
gonna show on the outside.
28:55
But you can't just have easy fixes, cutting corners never
28:58
works.
28:58
So just not shaped certain ways, you know, and they want more
29:02
which that's, I mean, that's like what makeup is like, makeup
29:06
makeup, we're all beautiful and we just use a little blush
29:09
to enhance the, the features.
29:11
It has nothing to do with changing your face.
29:13
We're just in hand, hand, the parts that we already have.
29:16
Mascara is making a little longer lip gloss, shiny lips blush
29:20
just enhancing things.
29:21
I've been, been, this is the beginning of time the Egyptians
29:24
started make up.
29:25
So it's nothing, there's nothing wrong with feeling good
29:28
looking good.
29:29
You know, I have no problem with that but you have to do the work
29:32
internally just as much as you, if you're gonna do it on the
29:34
outside.
29:34
So can I, can I say something that I noticed about Hollywood
29:38
Yeah, I feel like in LA, a lot of some of these jobs are kind of
29:44
they kind of what's the word they are contingent on how you
29:48
look?
29:49
Sometimes I noticed a lot of my other friends, I'm a comedian
29:52
so I'm going to show up how I show up and I get paid to just be myself
29:55
But I know that some people have to maintain a certain aesthetic
29:59
so that they can be.
30:00
Do you ever feel like there's a pressure to look a certain way
30:03
to maintain relevancy or, you know, usefulness or you could
30:08
get booked for stuff?
30:09
Well, I will say something that the job when I have booked a
30:13
job, the auditions that I how I looked in auditions is my most
30:18
healthiest, most fit.
30:21
And because of that, I feel the most confident and I'm free
30:25
I'm not worried about how my arm look.
30:27
I'm not worried about how I look, I'm just free to be.
30:30
And that's when the audience gets to see that.
30:33
And they're like, OK, because you're focused on your, I'm
30:36
I'm working on, I'm, I'm focused on, on the story on, on, on
30:39
expressing myself authentically living truthfully under
30:41
imaginary circumstances.
30:43
I'm not focused on how does my chin look right now?
30:45
How does this look?
30:46
So it takes away, it's like when you feel good, then you look
30:50
good.
30:50
Not because physically it's because your energy, you know
30:53
what I mean?
30:53
So that should be the driving force for everybody.
30:55
That's so real.
30:56
Even like when I go on runs, obviously running sucks.
30:58
Ok.
30:59
It is painful.
31:00
It is awful.
31:01
It is boring.
31:02
But running for whatever reason, it's like when I'm running
31:04
I'm like, I know I'm doing this for my future self because
31:06
when I'm done with a run, you guys, seriously, my mental health
31:10
is up.
31:10
I'm flushed, my skin is red and I'm just like, you know, the
31:14
sweat is dripping off.
31:15
I feel so and not even just that you're showing up as the person
31:18
you want to be.
31:19
And that this is something that I've learned is if you get up
31:21
you do your bed in the morning, right?
31:23
You drink your water, you have your vitamins, you do all these
31:25
things in the morning, you in your own mind, you're feeling
31:28
amazing about yourself because it's like, look at me, I'm
31:30
showing up as the person I want to be, I want to be the person
31:32
that gets up super early in the morning and go on a run.
31:35
Like this is when I see people doing that online, it I want to
31:39
be that person.
31:40
So when you show up as yourself, your mental health, no matter
31:42
what goes up, that's why I'm such a big believer in like morning
31:45
routines.
31:45
And I always suggest that to girls who are feeling maybe depressed
31:48
or anxious, which I felt I'm like, get up in the morning, like
31:50
get up even before the sun comes up, breathe, pray, whatever
31:54
it is that you want, go on a run man, like show up as the woman
31:57
You want to be all over the place because I don't have a morning
32:01
routine right now.
32:01
I'm just waking up like, oh my God, it was out of the post in my
32:05
eye.
32:06
And if you move your body moving, your body is trauma.
32:11
It all gets stuck.
32:12
Can I say something yesterday?
32:14
I went to yoga, hot yoga in the morning for the first time in
32:16
probably a year.
32:17
It's called BB or something.
32:19
There was different ones.
32:19
It was hot.
32:26
I've never been, I went, I went early in the morning, I went
32:31
in, I had no idea.
32:31
I came in late.
32:32
I was like, oh God, by the end of the hour, I felt like a whole
32:36
different human.
32:37
Like the most clear headed present.
32:39
The rest of my day flowed because I would just like I had this
32:43
like, just really light feeling in my body because I had it
32:46
took an hour to just be centered, to breathe and to connect
32:49
with myself and to think about things but not be like thinking
32:52
about it.
32:53
And also on my phone, making breakfast, drinking coffee,
32:56
trying to figure things out.
32:57
Um texting.
32:58
You know, it's just because when you think of your physical
33:00
fitness is the only thing that you can do.
33:02
Where if you try to look at it, if you try to look at the clock
33:04
on the wall, if you try to look at your phone, you're going to
33:06
fall over, you're going to topple over while you're running
33:09
and it's like that one hour of just mental silence does wonders
33:14
for us wonders.
33:16
You wouldn't be surprised how little it takes to have a good
33:19
day.
33:20
And I always pray in the morning and things that you can control
33:23
because look how many times things happen to you Ivana where
33:25
you're like, that's so out of my control that it's annoying
33:27
That person sent me an annoying email or, you know, one of your
33:30
friends being annoying or whatever.
33:32
Like how much, what times do we go?
33:34
That happens every day.
33:36
How many times do we like, literally experience things on
33:39
the daily that it's like, gosh, that's so annoying that's
33:41
happening.
33:41
But what about the things that we can control that will literally
33:44
boost us like crazy.
33:47
Do you guys think that men like feel or think the same way that
33:50
we do when it comes to bodies?
33:52
I think I do.
33:53
I have a friend that's a huge, he's so into personal training
33:56
and like, he always, he's like, whenever you're ready I'll
33:59
be here and I'm like, I'll let you, like, I hate when people
34:01
tell me what to do at the GM because I'm insecure.
34:03
But I'm like, ok, whenever I need your help, I'll let you know
34:05
when do I take Chlorophyll or whatever, whatever, I'm, I'm
34:10
trying to figure that out.
34:11
But I think that they also, I think the gym could be regardless
34:14
of your gender.
34:15
I think it could be like you were saying about just being inside
34:18
of your body for a moment.
34:19
It's bigger than just, I think we talk a lot of spirituality
34:22
on this podcast, but it's bigger than what other people think
34:23
is just how are you taking care of yourself on the planet today
34:27
Whatever that looks like for you.
34:28
So that's why I'm trying to get more into the gym because I'm
34:30
like, it's not about losing weight even though I can't wait
34:32
to fit into something skank.
34:35
But it's about, I want to take care of myself.
34:37
What's your ideal body for yourself?
34:40
I don't know if you guys know this girl.
34:41
Her name is Joey Chavez.
34:43
I don't know her last name, Joy Chavez.
34:45
She's on Instagram.
34:46
She's so beautiful.
34:47
She used to date little bow.
34:48
Wow.
34:50
Yeah, I know.
34:51
But I think she has such a beautiful body but she works out and
34:54
she takes care of herself.
34:55
I love myself.
34:56
I just got to get rid of this area and this thing that's going
35:00
on in my, not this thing and it's like her shoulder, get rid
35:04
of her shoulder, shoulder with no shoulders.
35:09
I, I love my body and I understand that God, he shaved me like
35:13
an hourglass.
35:14
I just want to get back there right now.
35:16
I'm giving full cup which is beautiful, but I'm trying to get
35:19
back to that.
35:20
You see that hourglass back there?
35:21
That's what I want to look like.
35:22
I want to ask though, tell him because I know can we get you on
35:24
camera real quick?
35:26
OK, because I want to ask because you did bring up the mail thing
35:29
which I think is important because I feel like a lot of the
35:32
times women, we're hard on ourselves, sometimes we're even
35:34
hard on other women.
35:35
Like a lot of the online bullying that happens.
35:37
A lot of the times is from other women unfortunately.
35:39
But for men, what do you feel like in regards to like body image
35:44
Do you guys?
35:44
Do you think guys put as much pressure on yourselves as you
35:47
do as you think girls do on ourselves?
35:50
I think secretly because I don't think it's a public thing
35:53
that guys like to talk about because it is like a huge insecurity
35:56
because everybody wants, every guy wants to be the alpha,
35:58
big strong guy.
35:59
So they try to just kinda ignore that conversation.
36:02
But deep down they're like, I wish I can be bench a little bit
36:06
more but it's not something they really talk about.
36:08
What are the biggest insecurities do you think?
36:10
For, for girls?
36:11
Obviously it's like you want a big, but a small waist, whatever
36:14
it might be like, I know a big one.
36:15
Its legs for sure.
36:19
For sure.
36:20
You can see that little stomach.
36:26
I was hot and some chicken legs.
36:29
That's the thing that gets a lot of guys.
36:30
It's so easy for girls to make fun of guys' legs and they just
36:34
have to take their hair and their hairline.
36:36
I have one beauty moe and it has long like sometimes it's been
36:42
this long.
36:43
I do not believe you.
36:44
I to, I swear to Bob, I swear.
36:47
Ok.
36:47
Do you guys agree with this?
36:48
That like with girls?
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It's kind of, yeah, we get a lot of like bullying when it comes
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to like our bodies.
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But for men, I feel like they really have to take it like you're
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sure you have maybe like a small front butt as you call it like
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things of that nature or risk hairline.
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No, but men get it really bad if they're short.
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I feel like Right.
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You should man because I like do you like short guys.
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You date short guys.
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She's short.
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What's the shortest you've dated?
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I feel like I'm 6 ft, but you're literally not.
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What's the, what's the shortest you've dated?
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57.
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How are you?
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How are you?
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That's right there in the neighborhood.
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That, that's me.
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56 dating someone.
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Can I say something?
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I dated a guy that was shorter than me and he had Napoleon Complex
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It would make me look, I'm not even trying to be funny.
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No, he was mean as hell.
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He wouldn't let me wear heels.
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He told me I couldn't be a teacher.
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He said, you think that you're old?
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He was and then you love this person.
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You're like, yo, I love you.
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Why are you dragging?
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And for a long time he made me feel like I was ugly and then one
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day I know this sounds crazy but I looked up, I was like, I don't
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think I'm as ugly as he's making me out to be.
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And sometimes men will look, this might sound like polarizing
38:07
but men will have, will guess at you so that you don't feel better
38:11
so you can stay with them.
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He was so mean to me he thinks he, so I would say that was a mentally
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abusive relationship.
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It was bad.
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Do you think that guys, how you just said, do you like short
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guys?
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I said, yeah, I did.
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Do you think, do you think guys think that about short girls
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like, oh, she's short.
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I know they want to be with other girls.
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I think the opposite.
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I think sometimes men don't want to date someone that's taller
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than them.
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They're like, oh, how tall are you in real life?
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Would you date someone?
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Would you date someone that's taller than you canceled?
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No, be honest.
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Be honest.
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Be honest.
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Probably not.
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I think it's, I guess a little bit de masculinity but that's
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like my machismo rooted culture.
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I have seen like beautiful women, beautiful tall women.
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There's a lot of them.
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If I was a short guy and a tall girl was open to dating me, I would
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be like, damn, you couldn't tell me nothing.
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One of my best friends, she's like 595 10 and her man, I think
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he's got to be like 5756.
39:17
They look bomb together and he loves his girl.
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You the ring he put on her finger is tall and big enough.
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Would you date a guy way shorter than you?
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Like way shorter than you sweetie.
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I like to climb trees.
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You know, that's where I'm at.
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I love tall men.
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That's just my type though.
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I don't, I don't want to um size what that thing, height shame
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anybody.
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I'm not.
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He shaming you're allowed to have a preference.
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I think that as women, we're actually way more understanding
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about guys bodies than they are.
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You know what I mean?
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I think that we accept them if they're like, oh, we're chubby
39:53
and we're like, you're not, that's why there's such a thing
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as a dad bod.
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Why isn't there such a thing as, like a mom bod?
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Like that's just not and we're the ones giving birth.
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We don't realize that we like them no matter what I love.
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I love a little, I love, I love a little of everything.
40:13
I think.
40:14
I love who they are as people and that makes them attractive
40:16
to me.
40:17
I love like a viking, just like tall, big all around wood chopper
40:21
Like a guy who had like a little pudge one time.
40:26
And when he walked across the room, I was like, but I had to just
40:32
switch it in my head and then once I did, I was over for that one
40:35
I don't be a thick boy.
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I, it's cute.
40:37
I don't want to date someone that's super into working out
40:41
because you're going to hold me a con you getting on my fucking
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nerve.
40:44
That's funny.
40:45
You say that don't be coming to me at that gym.
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Shit.
40:47
I like someone that's like, let's go for a walk, walk the dogs
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to the ice cream place.
40:53
Yes, I just don't wanna like, I'd be so you ever dated someone
40:57
You have to pretend to like their hobbies?
40:59
And that shit is a lot to keep up with.
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I dated a guy that really liked video games.
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I think I convinced myself that I liked it.
41:07
I dated a guy that was really into the gym and we would have dates
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in the gym.
41:10
I'm like, I did lose a lot of that.
41:13
We started liking it for a little bit.
41:15
But I was like, yo, we're going to the gym again.
41:17
We go, what I'm attracted to is someone that wants to take care
41:20
of themselves in any capacity.
41:22
It doesn't have to be, I don't want perfect a but you're someone
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who cares about.
41:29
Yeah, I agree with that.
41:30
I couldn't date somebody that just neglects themselves.
41:32
But I did date a football player in college.
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So he was like us c football player.
41:36
I mean, like when we would cuddle, I was like cuddling a rock
41:40
I would lay on him or I would put my arm around his stomach and
41:43
it would just do like it.
41:44
No, I didn't.
41:46
It took me months to get used to because the guy before him was
41:50
not like that.
41:51
And then when I was cuddling him, I'm like, this is so it's not
41:54
even comfortable for me.
41:55
And I know that's just my preference.
41:56
I like a little bit of, you know, I'm your type has the confidence
42:01
to approach you, I don't think because you look like a trophy
42:05
wife.
42:06
You know, and I'm curious because the type of guys you like
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seem very wholesome rounded and don't worry about certain
42:15
things.
42:16
You know, when I try to convince my dad to work out.
42:17
My dad's a mechanic.
42:18
He's like, if you just not, I'm moving my body.
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My, you're right.
42:21
I'm like, that's so right.
42:22
And it's like, I don't question him about his body no more.
42:24
The guy, I'm kind of, kind of, kind of talking to right now.
42:27
He's builds houses, he moves around, he's bigger, not like
42:31
big, but, you know, he's bigger, like my type and like tall
42:34
And I'm like, OK, I like this because he's moving around, you
42:36
know, like he's active, he can fix anything on a home.
42:40
He can, you know, do plumbing electric.
42:42
I love that.
42:43
I love a man that's just like I'm gonna handle it.
42:45
I got the same problem.
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I'm going to just sit here critical.
42:53
I need to redefine my type, my type is not working out for me
42:56
So I need to go back to the drawing board and be like, OK, what
42:59
I'm, I think right now I'm ready to step outside of my comfort
43:02
zone.
43:03
I'm really used to dating guys from New York that have a lot
43:06
of trauma and don't want to commit trauma.
43:09
That's New York energy though.
43:11
L A will do it.
43:11
So you don't open your horizons.
43:13
I think the guys here are so nice.
43:14
There was a guy that came up to me.
43:16
I wasn't going to talk to him, but he's like, hey, I think you
43:17
are really gorgeous and I couldn't leave without telling
43:20
you that I've never got that in New York.
43:23
Maybe I'm just exaggerating.
43:24
But anyways, ok, there's no way I feel like in New York they
43:28
call on, they're very like you pretend like that doesn't even
43:32
exist, you know, like some guy told me the other day that he
43:36
said.
43:37
So I was walking, it was indictment.
43:39
He's like mono, which means you're a monument.
43:42
And I like your mama raised it.
43:47
And the last guy that I was seeing, even though he is a dick,
43:50
he did say I was telling him like, I'm having insecure, he's
43:54
such a horrible person, but he's a Scorpio and I just put my
43:58
business out there.
43:59
But anyways, so I'm putting all the pieces together, don't
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you?
44:04
I'm going to find him one day.
44:05
I'll show you a picture.
44:06
It says you got to.
44:07
But I was telling him I'm having insecurities in my body right
44:10
now.
44:10
He's like, no, you're a grown woman.
44:12
You have a woman's body.
44:13
And his compliment just made me feel like girl, that sentence
44:17
alone just changed the game for me when I just like a year ago
44:21
when I was like, wait, I'm 33 years old.
44:25
I need to.
44:26
That's my body.
44:27
I'm a grown woman now.
44:28
And that has done wonders for me because of growing up a certain
44:32
weight and then deviating from it in my family.
44:35
If you gain £1 they're like the one that I hate.
44:41
The most with four days ago I was with a friend and he was like
44:48
oh, your arms are so strong.
44:51
No, no, no.
44:52
And I was like, oh, ok, thank you.
44:54
And then he said something like, but that shirt, I was wearing
44:58
a shirt look kind of like this.
44:59
Who is this guy?
45:00
And he was like, he was like, that shirt makes your arms too
45:03
Look.
45:03
And I said, no, I didn't get offended.
45:06
I didn't get, thankfully, you've done the work on yourself
45:08
because that would mess someone up.
45:10
But I was just like, whatever.
45:11
But I changed my shirt.
45:13
Yeah, you're like, I don't care but you don't want him.
45:15
I changed because I want him to feel comfortable around me
45:18
because I don't want him to think that I'm going to beat him
45:19
up at the same time because I will.
45:23
He said I look so strong but it wasn't and he normally in my head
45:27
I've done so much work that I think strong is beautiful.
45:29
Like I think being, being strong is a beautiful thing.
45:32
It didn't affect me.
45:33
But if it was anybody else, I'm sure that that would really
45:37
make them feel bad.
45:38
Wait, I have a question.
45:39
That's a little spicy.
45:40
Do you have a favorite part of like, if you're into the guys
45:43
Right?
45:44
Do you have a favorite part of the male anatomy?
45:47
I'll go first.
45:48
My favorite part is the cupid's bow.
45:49
So I, I know this sounds very sw.
45:53
Yeah.
45:54
So a lot of Caribbean men have a very deep, oh my God.
46:00
I know that it's so simple but it really, you know how you feel
46:04
about, that's how I feel about the cut people.
46:10
What about you?
46:11
Ivanna.
46:12
How about you?
46:15
We know what she likes.
46:16
Let's go give it a range from the last session.
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Ok.
46:20
I like a beard, a beard, a beard, like just a beard.
46:27
like a nice fully grown hagrid.
46:30
Some people like one of those biker men with, you know how they
46:37
be?
46:37
No, I like it clean cut just right there.
46:41
Scruff.
46:42
I need the scruff.
46:43
I need the facial hair, the eyes, ok?
46:46
You know what gets me is like kind eyes on a very masculine man
46:49
just like kind eyes hot.
46:55
I don't like any celebrities right now, but I would date.
46:58
What's that guy?
46:59
That was Chad Michael Murray?
47:00
I always thought he was fun of shit.
47:01
Chad Michael Murray.
47:04
Maybe you do like, you know Dominicans.
47:07
No, I think I have reached my limit with.
47:10
I will always love my culture, but I think I just am not going
47:13
to marry a Dominican man at this point in my life, it might change
47:17
and two years, but right now I'm ready to try something different
47:22
I agree.
47:22
You're expanding your, that's what happened to me.
47:24
I dated only Mexicanos for the most part.
47:27
Now, I'm like we're expanding the horizon.
47:29
I might date a Mexican too.
47:31
I've never dated a Mexican man.
47:32
Colombian.
47:33
I've been looking up there I think.
47:35
Are we wrapping up?
47:38
Is an hour already?
47:39
There's no way not why you guys we have to wrap up started.
47:46
Can we do we do?
47:47
We are still on block?
47:48
A can we, can we do one of the wind down?
47:51
Questions before we wrap up?
47:53
What's the wind down?
47:54
So how do you feel about hair on your body?
47:58
And then what's the takeaway you got from this?
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Everybody go around.
48:01
How do you feel about your hair on your body?
48:02
I laser it away.
48:04
Laser away.
48:05
What about you?
48:05
I take care of my hair.
48:09
I feel like lately I've been getting like little tiny hairs
48:11
on my beard.
48:12
I mean I be on, wait a minute that pisses me off on the wisdom
48:18
is growing.
48:20
You get, do I get the same?
48:23
I have, I have, I have one beauty market and it has long hair
48:29
Like sometimes it's been this long once.
48:31
I know it was like five years ago.
48:35
I hadn't gone back yet but I was like, Yvonne, I was like what
48:38
his hand was here here.
48:40
Like what?
48:41
I, I do not believe you.
48:43
I to I I swear to bob, I swear maybe hair is long and you wear it
48:48
forward.
48:49
You didn't notice this is my wisdom is coming from this little
48:51
mole right here.
48:52
But the Ivan please.
48:54
You guys.
48:55
It was this long wait, I have it in a jar.
48:58
I was talking to it.
48:59
Good luck.
49:00
Anyway, she's lying.
49:03
I don't believe you.
49:03
I don't, I don't, I don't believe any part of this.
49:07
There's no way a hair from your take away what one take away
49:10
you got from this combo.
49:11
I know that we had to speed up towards it and I, I really enjoy
49:14
this combo.
49:14
That was probably the fastest podcast I've ever had in my because
49:18
of this.
49:18
Can we do a part two?
49:20
So can we do a part two?
49:21
But the truth is the take away is like the energy that we feel
49:25
now is like how everybody should feel about their bodies.
49:27
It's like it's ebbs and flows ups and downs.
49:30
You learn to live it, sometimes you hate it, you grow out of
49:33
it at the end of the day, you got to live with it.
49:35
So make it a good home.
49:37
I like I like the way I feel is like we have a soul and that's who
49:40
we are and this is just the vessel we could take care of it as
49:43
much as we can.
49:43
There's things you can't control.
49:45
It's a temple.
49:47
What I took away from it is that we're all beautiful.
49:51
Thank you so much.
49:52
Cheers to that.
49:54
Thank you here.
49:56
What did you take away?
49:58
Like you see people on the internet and then you meet them in
50:04
real life and sometimes it's disappointing you're like,
50:06
oh, don't bring me back.
50:07
You're like, but this was like the opposite from beginning
50:09
to end.
50:10
It's just, and I figured it would be because I have so much fun
50:13
watching it.
50:14
Um But I think also as a Latina growing up and as a woman that's
50:19
constantly healing herself, the conversations you guys
50:22
have on this show are just so appreciated as a listener.
50:26
Shout out cheers guys had a great time.
50:30
I'm Loreli, I'm Jessica.
50:34
I'm Ivana and I'm Francesca Gammon.
50:37
And this is girl.
50:38
Let me, let me tell you.
50:40
Let's get OK, girl, I love your smile and I love your eyes.
50:55
I love being a tomboy.
50:57
I love dressing however I want to and still feeling sexy and
51:00
beautiful.
51:00
Your butt has always been big.
51:03
You're just really perfect.
51:05
I think I love your accent.
51:06
That would change.
51:07
I love my body.
51:08
I love my smile.
51:09
I love my little booty chin and I love the skin on it.
51:12
I love your humor and your responsibilities.
51:16
Don't let anyone tell you anything else because butts come
51:19
in different sizes.