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Xiomara Gallego-Bernard

Welcome to this episode of “A LA LATINA: The Playbook to Succeed Being Your Authentic Self,” where Cynthia Kleinbaum Milner is honored to host the remarkable Xiomara Gallego-Bernard, a children’s book author.

We created this special episode to help working moms manage the extra stress of back-to-school time, especially if you have a sensitive child who’s anxious about returning to school. We know that stress at home can impact your success at work. This episode is designed to offer guidance and support for moms navigating these challenges.

Xiomara’s latest book, Tomás Returns to School, is inspired by her personal experience supporting her highly sensitive child and addresses the critical need for literature focused on these unique challenges. Her writing not only provides practical coping strategies but also reflects her own sensitivity and childhood experiences. Here are the three key takeaways from the interview:

1.-Normalize the conversation: Open discussions about parenting highly sensitive children help us connect with others in similar situations and show that these challenges do not limit our professional achievements.

2.-Strategies to communicate with your sensitive child: Xiomara shares valuable strategies for communicating with sensitive children, insights that are also beneficial for improving team interactions in the workplace.

3.-It Is never too late to find your purpose: Xiomara’s journey highlights that discovering your purpose can happen at any stage in life. If you’re still searching, stay hopeful—your path is out there waiting.

Don’t miss this episode filled with optimism and practical wisdom from Xiomara Gallego-Bernard on “A LA LATINA”!
Show transcript
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Ola, I'm Cynthia Cleo Milner.
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And this is a special episode of the podcast A La Latina
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the playbook to succeed being your authentic self.
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Today, we have with us Xiomara Gallego Bernard.
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She's a children's book author and she just published a very useful
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book about enabling a highly sensitive child going back to school.
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Here are the three takeaways of our conversation.
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Number one, it is super important to normalize the conversation about
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parenting, highly sensitive Children.
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If we do, we are going to realize that many of
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us are going through the same,
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it doesn't have to affect our ability to succeed at work.
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Number two, she gave us a playbook to communicate with your
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sensitive child, which can also help you better communicate with your
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team. And lastly,
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she is living proof that you can find your purpose later in
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life. If you feel like you haven't found yours.
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Today. We're gonna give you our audience,
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especially moms, a different type of playbook,
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a playbook to enable our kids to transition to school without the
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stress that usually comes with it.
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Many of you are moms like us and you know how much
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our personal life interferes and having stress can influence our ability to
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focus on work. So today we wanna give you the tools
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that you need. So back to school season doesn't get in
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the way of your ability to succeed at work.
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I'm super excited to have with us Xiomara Gallego Bernard.
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She's a wellness advocate and a children's book author and we're gonna
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talk about that really cool book that she just wrote and that
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I read to my kids this morning,
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Xiomara. Thank you for being here.
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Thank you so much for the opportunity.
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I'm excited to share about the book and about what being highly
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sensitive really means because I think it's an important time in our
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in our lives now to be connected with our Children and
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really understand the emotional struggles that they could be having.
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So I'm excited to share about the book and to help professional
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women to transition their Children into school while also be able to
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excel in their careers.
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Great. So, Amara,
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I read your book this morning and I was very touched by
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how my son who is also like on the highly sensitive side
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was absorbing everything that,
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that you wrote there.
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And it made me think a lot about what happens before we
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arrive to work and after we arrived to work,
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that can be impacting the millions of moms that start mornings with
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sometimes like really difficult moments,
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a lot of yelling or a lot of like struggle and then
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you have to kind of like compartmentalize and flip the switch and
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then go to work and it's,
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it's, it's a lot.
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And I wanna thank you for writing this and I'm super excited
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about our conversation. I wanna start with you telling us a
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little bit about why you wrote this.
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Let's start with your upbringing and what make you be the person
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that you are today and then we'll go into the book.
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Ok. So I'm a Brooklyn girl.
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I was born and raised in Brooklyn in Williamsburg,
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which is very different from what it was when I grew up
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right now. They're trendy shops.
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It wasn't cool. No,
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it was not a great place to be and no one really
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wanted to live there.
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It was a lot of crime rundown buildings.
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you know,
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and we were a low income family.
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So that's what we could afford,
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right? But now it's completely different.
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So I think that struggle has made me who I am today
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has made me stronger,
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has made me more resilient.
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Also, I was diagnosed with a congenital heart condition when I
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was one. And so I had to undergo open heart surgery
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at a very young age.
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while I don't remember that surgery,
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I do remember a second surgery that I actually had to go
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through as well, which was to remove a pacemaker that they
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had placed to monitor the heart after the initial surgery.
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So, you know,
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I really had a tough childhood from the beginning,
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right? And I think again,
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that's made me stronger in who I am.
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And now I live life with a different perspective,
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right? I'm grateful for every moment that I have.
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I value time with my family,
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more connecting with people.
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And I'm grateful for those experiences because I've learned,
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especially as I've gotten older,
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to appreciate the little moments and really be present with my loved
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ones with friends with people that really bring joy into my life
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So yes, I'm really happy that I went through all
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of that because it is who I am today.
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In the last episode of our,
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of our season two,
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we spoke, well,
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not the last like the last interview which was with Claudia,
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my co host. She told a story about how she
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actually had two siblings who passed away when they were very young
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And that put almost like a magnifying glass on her because
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her parents were first of all thinking like she could die any
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moment. But also like you're a survivor,
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what are you going to do with your life?
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Did you experience that same,
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both love but also pressure of you,
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you must be alive because you are going to do great things
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Right. Exactly.
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So having a 5050 chance of survival definitely changes your perspective on
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things and makes you really think about,
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why am I here?
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Why was I given a second chance at life?
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And this could be it at 46 years old.
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You know, I wrote this book and there's a purpose behind
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this book, right?
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The struggles that we were facing with our child.
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Now, I put it into a book,
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our experiences and hopefully will help other parents,
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other caregivers that other Children that may be also going through the
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same struggles as we were.
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I love it. I read recently that people are starting to
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find their purpose and realizing,
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ok, finding my purpose at like 45 46 50 60 it's
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totally fine. You,
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sometimes I'm, I'm sure some people never find their purpose.
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But I love that you're finding your purpose.
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I can tell you that for me,
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like a La Latina has,
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I think it's been my purpose.
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It's been waiting for me to happen and then you stumbled upon
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it. So you stumbled on your purpose.
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I did, I did.
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And, and it's funny because someone told me,
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I think a few years ago when I was struggling to figure
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out what I wanted to do with my life,
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right? Because I was a stay at home mom,
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but still trying to create a career,
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the wellness career. And they told me they said,
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you know, some people don't find their purpose after they're 40
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And I didn't believe that person.
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I was like, oh,
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whatever, I'm struggling,
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I'm depressed, I'm stressed,
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but it is true.
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So I've found a path to take and I'm so grateful and
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so excited that this book is now available and can maybe help
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families the book. I'm not gonna give you guys give you
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ladies the, the gist of what the book is.
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But I can tell you that when I was reading it,
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I was like, oh,
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it's gonna be another kids book.
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Like there's all these,
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I think we have 300 kids book.
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So I was like reading it thinking is it gonna surprise me
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And it really surprised me.
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I think you found a very unique way of making highly sensitive
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kids feel like they can be superheroes.
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So not only you made them feel like they can handle the
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stress of back to being back to school,
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but at least my son went to,
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to summer camp today being like,
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I'm going to help another child today and thank you so much
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And that's why I wrote the book,
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right. So for those that don't know what being highly sensitive
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means that it's not a disorder,
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it's not a diagnosis or a medical condition.
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It is a personality trait that we're born with,
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which allows us to feel things in a deeper way.
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So we have an increased emotional sensitivity and stronger reactivity to both
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external and internal stimuli.
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So we can easily be overwhelmed,
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overstimulated and things like loud noises,
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large crowds transitions are difficult for us at times.
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Routine changes, we also feel pain,
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hunger a little bit deeper than kids who are not,
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or people who are not highly sensitive.
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And if you don't understand the trait,
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it can become very difficult to help your child or just the
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family will have a difficult time dealing with everything that's called on
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with the child. And during the research that I did before
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we knew that our child was highly sensitive,
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I also came to understand that I'm highly sensitive and looking back
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at a lot of moments in my childhood where I was overstimulated
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I was overwhelmed,
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but I didn't have the support because my parents didn't know what
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what I was going through and I'll share something that a
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lot of people don't know.
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But I had a nickname.
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So they gave me a nickname,
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man. Tequila, right?
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Butter. And what happens with butter?
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It melts, man.
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Tequila melts. So,
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because I was having meltdowns,
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that was the nickname they gave me.
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Oh man, here's the maranoa mania,
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right? And it could be funny when you think about it
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but when you're the child receiving that from the people that
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are supposed to love you,
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it really affects you and and we couldn't express that right?
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We weren't allowed to really share what we were feeling.
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But I look at those moments and that's why I made a
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commitment to really dig deep into high sensitivity and how I could
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help my child because I never want him to feel what I
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felt. I never want him to feel.
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not supported. Right?
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I always wanna make sure that he knows that I'm there 100%
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regardless of whatever emotions he's going through,
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everything is validated. I feel like our kids are so lucky
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that they grew up in an age where we're not gonna just
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tell them you're throwing a tantrum.
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But there is that other extreme where there's so permissive,
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you know that. So sometimes you want to,
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you wanna help them,
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but you also want to give them structure and tell them what
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is OK to do.
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OK? I went to my,
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to Mexico to my dad's house.
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I think two years ago,
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my son is very sensitive when it comes to water.
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He doesn't wanna swim.
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And my neighbors who I grew up with were all telling me
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just throw him in the water.
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And I'm like, what are you talking about?
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That's how, how we all learn to swim.
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Like our parents just threw us in the water.
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And I'm thinking my son is unwilling to put his foot in
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the pool. I'm gonna throw him in the water and I
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felt so judged the entire vacation that I wasn't throwing my son
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in the water and my son,
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now he's swimming totally fine.
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He just took a little bit longer time.
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I kept taking him every week to,
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to swimming lesson. It's not like I went to the extreme
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of like, I'm not gonna take him to classes and I'm
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going to just hope that at some point he decides to swim
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It's a skill that's important to have.
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I'm taking him to his weekly lessons,
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but I felt very judged.
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And now I'm very proud of having done my own research and
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made my own decision and every child is different.
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And that also happened with our child.
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We tried to put them in swim class when they were very
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young and it didn't work.
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And again, a lot of people were telling us just do
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it, push him,
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you know, he'll get used to it.
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Right. But there's a different way to approach a highly sensitive
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child. Right. And a lot of the things that we
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think our rights stem from our upbringing and the way that they
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discipline and the way that they did things.
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But it's, we have to be kinder,
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more gentle and we're gonna get,
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you know, judged,
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but we have to do it at the way that the child
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needs for us to do it.
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So I'm sure a lot of people including me,
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do all this research,
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but we don't all decide to write a book about it.
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Like, how did you?
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And this is for a lot of our audience and,
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and people that follow us that are kind of in a moment
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in their life where they're,
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they don't feel like they are living their purpose,
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but they don't know how to find their purpose.
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How did you decide I'm gonna give this a shot?
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Like I think I can do something to help others.
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Like this is my purpose.
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Was there any sign?
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Like, how did you?
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well, I've always wanted to write a book.
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That's the first thing,
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you know, I've tried many,
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many years, but when we started going through the challenge of
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trying to figure out what was going on,
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what was happening with him,
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you know, so I'll give you a background of what happened
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that led to me writing the book.
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So when I have three boys,
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a teenager and the twins who are seven right now,
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when they were one of them is highly sensitive.
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So when they were two,
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this was also around COVID,
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which could have, you know,
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led to some of also the emotional struggles.
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We noticed that one of them was having a lot of outbursts
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meltdowns, but we didn't know what it was right.
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He was two years old.
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He wasn't able to verbalize what he was feeling.
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So we were concerned obviously and we talked to his pediatrician
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other friends of ours who were pediatricians,
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counselors, friends. and no one could pinpoint what was
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going on because he was meeting all of the milestones.
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There were no delays.
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So he was doing everything that a two year old should be
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doing. So what we kept hearing was,
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you know, what,
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it's the terrible twos and the terrible twos,
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everyone knows is when the child is testing you and the personality
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comes out. So we said,
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ok, let's let's wait and see.
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But they turned three and it was still happening four.
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It was still happening.
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So I like any mama would do was like,
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I need to figure this out.
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So I started reading and researching and there wasn't a lot of
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literature on high sensitivity.
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There was some and I stumbled across two books by Elaine Aaron
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who's a psychologist and an author.
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And the books were the highly sensitive child and the highly sensitive
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person I read the highly sensitive child.
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And that's where I realized that maybe my son is not a
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like as highly sensitive as most kids.
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But still, right.
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And from the moment I opened that book,
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I knew I had found the answer or I was on the
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right path and I started implementing things that were in the book
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and they were working.
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And I was like,
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oh my gosh, thank God that I found this book.
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And I'm so grateful for this book.
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Obviously. Now, more research is being done,
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but that gave me kind of,
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you know, a blueprint or plan to kind of follow to
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help. And so I thought about it and what we were
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going through and I said,
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you know what, there are a lot of other families that
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made me struggling through this as well.
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So let me try and write a book that will be relatable
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to other Children, not just highly sensitive kids,
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but any child can benefit from reading this book because school is
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always transitioning to school is always a challenging time for any child
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And I said,
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you know what, I know that other parents might be going
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through this caregivers and this might help them just make it more
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a fun read for the Children,
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right? And it might help them.
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So I started writing the book.
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Right. So, besides the book which I hope everybody buys
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and I hope everybody reads to their kids.
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Can you give our audience some tips that you've learned that
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have worked for you on how,
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how to make like a morning easier when you have a highly
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sensitive child or how to handle difficult moments.
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I do. So what we do in the mornings are
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I get up earlier before anyone else in the house gets up
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so that I am in a better place emotionally,
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mentally and prepare because sometimes you don't know what you're going to
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get in the morning from your highly sensitive child.
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I get up,
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I say my prayers.
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I, you know,
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say I'm grateful. Thank you for my life.
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And then I walk into their room and I walk in
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with a positive attitude.
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That's very important. No matter what you're feeling that morning,
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you have to walk in there with a positive attitude,
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positive tone, gentle tone,
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calming tone, never rushing the child.
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So you wake them up.
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We also have a routine chart that we put on the door
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so that they know what's going to happen next.
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They wake up, they brush their teeth,
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use the bathroom, then we do breakfast.
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A highly sensitive child needs that in their life so that they
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know what's coming next.
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So nothing is a surprise.
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They don't do well with surprise.
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We have a good chart with the check.
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I just, I just have the same with us and it's
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helped tremendously. I mean,
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we've used it since we started researching and reading about it and
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it works also. Make sure that you're again,
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wake up early, make sure they have enough time to prepare
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for school so that they're having breakfast in a calm way.
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They're not eating in the car.
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Right. I know that that's difficult sometimes if you have a
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long commute with your child,
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I think those things are really important so that they are not
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rushed in the morning because we've tried that sometimes or we've run
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late and the child just loses it.
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And then what happens when you're,
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you're, you're creating an environment where you're preventing,
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preventing, preventing, preventing,
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but many times like it happens and they have a meltdown.
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How, how do you handle those moments?
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Well, first we have to regulate our own emotions,
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right? Because it can be hard for us to calm down
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especially if you're a highly sensitive parent.
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Like I am, my emotions are all over the place.
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Their emotions are all over the place.
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So we have to first regulate ourselves,
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take breaths, whatever it is that we have to do and
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then we can help the child.
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And again, we've had moments where,
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you know, we're five minutes before school starts and he'll have
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a meltdown. I don't want to go to school today.
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We're having a math test or whatever and you kind of have
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to just calm down and say,
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ok and talk through it,
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talk him through it.
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It's ok. Everyone else,
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other kids may be feeling the same way that you are.
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You're not the only one.
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And you know what,
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because you are feeling this way,
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maybe you can talk to the other kid who is also going
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through the same thing and you guys can work together on managing
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those emotions. So that has worked for us.
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But first we have to regulate our own emotions.
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I have to tell you being a mom of a highly sensitive
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child, which I think my son is has made me
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a better manager because I was so used to being very driven
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and very clear and we're going to do this and we're gonna
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get that and then with my son,
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like if, if there's a meltdown,
20:32
five minutes before you have to get to school,
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my normal like reaction wouldn't be to,
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ok, let's take a break.
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I could take a moment and let's talk about it.
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And I'm like trying to convince him to calm down and go
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to school and you're like,
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the more he can feel that I'm just trying to push him
20:48
to go to school,
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the less we're gonna get the outcome that we want.
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So it's, it's a very different approach to the way that
20:55
you would manage a team.
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And I have found that using the techniques that I use with
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my kids with my team is very effective,
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more effective than using the techniques that I used to use in
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my, with my team with my kids.
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It does work with adults a lot of times even more than
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the child. Right?
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Your husband? Oh,
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yeah, of course.
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Yeah. And other siblings,
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if they're siblings as well,
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like using those type of things with them as well,
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can help and also they can help the highly sensitive child because
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now they know those tools and can help them when they're going
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through their their struggles.
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I think we're making a better generation.
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So what in your research?
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And when you've been talking to moms,
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can you tell us what are some common challenges that professional women
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face when they're balancing their work?
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Like the mindset that they need to be in when they have
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a highly sensitive child at home.
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So I think as moms we can do,
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we can do everything but not all at once,
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right? So when you're balancing a demanding career with raising
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and parenting a highly sensitive child,
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it comes with its own unique challenges.
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We're constantly juggling multiple roles.
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So time management is crucial,
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right? And because our highly sensitive Children need more attention and
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support, we often feel drained,
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drained, tapped out.
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So it's really important again to re center yourself so that
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you have more to give as a mom.
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How do you do it again?
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Breathing? I think breathing is meditate in the morning,
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wake up and just again,
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wake up earlier before anyone else.
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And I know that can be difficult but it's a commitment right
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to help the child,
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not just the child,
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but the whole family.
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Because if you know,
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if everyone is not on the same page,
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it's not going to work,
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it's going to be a chaotic household.
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So I think doing those things and just being kind and
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gentle to yourself because we are doing the best that we can
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right? Also accepting help.
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I think accepting help is really hard for us sometimes because we're
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trying to do everything by ourselves,
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right? Because for me,
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it's been, you know,
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I was raised to,
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to think that I had to do everything on my own.
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And that's not the case anymore.
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When we're trying to juggle our careers with parenting,
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we need help. So it's ok to ask for help.
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It's ok to accept help when it's being offered.
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Because if we are running on empty,
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it's not going to be a good place to be for a
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child. They're not going to get the best us,
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right? That they can get.
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Ok. So we talked about activities and routines that can help
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highly sensitive Children in the morning in general.
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Maybe can we talk about some common mistakes to avoid besides speeding
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things up and rushing them?
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Are there any other things that you think we should avoid yelling
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screaming, hitting,
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we definitely want to avoid doing that.
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And I, again,
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I go back to upbringing and a lot of the things that
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we thought were correct.
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Right. That our parents,
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the way they disciplined us was different.
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we can't do that because we're trying to teach them
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how to regulate their emotions.
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And if we don't regulate our emotions,
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if we go in there fighting and yelling and screaming,
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where they're going to say,
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well, why is she trying to teach me to manage
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my emotions if she's not doing it herself?
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Right? Also blaming blaming the child,
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especially in front of other people.
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We never want to blame the child because it can create more
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of an emotional response to that and they'll feel embarrassed.
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Also ignoring the child.
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That's something that I experienced as a child.
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Right? After the bad behavior,
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my parents would never,
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wouldn't speak to me,
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right? So we don't want to ignore the child.
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We always want them to feel like they're loved regardless of what
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they're feeling, right?
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They've gone through their emotions,
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they've gone through the bad behavior,
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but we always want to make sure that they can come to
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us and talk to us with whatever they're feeling.
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We want to create a safe space.
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So you touched on something that I wanna talk a little bit
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more about, which is the upbringing of Latinos like I also
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grew up in a very Latin family where if you misbehaved,
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there was no really analysis for trying to understand what was
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happening. You were throwing a tantrum and you had to go
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to your room. What else do you see that is unique
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in the Latino culture that you think a book like yours
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is so needed? I think especially in the Latino community,
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as you mentioned, being highly sensitive or also just emotional
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or mental health. It's not something that we,
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like you said, talked about,
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but we have to normalize,
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right? We have to change the narrative,
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we have to change the way that our Children feel towards us
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too. If that makes sense,
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we don't want our Children to fear us.
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And I remember I feared my parents,
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I would never communicate with them or share what I was feeling
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And I think that because of that,
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I think the new generation understands that,
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but it's still hard to detach from that way that we grew
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up and now parent our kids in a different way.
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But we've done that at home.
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We obviously, you know,
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we're not perfect, we're going to have our own meltdowns.
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And I have yelled at them at times.
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But for the most part,
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we're consistent with not yelling,
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not screaming and giving them the opportunity to talk about what they're
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feeling. Why did this happen?
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Why they think this happened?
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And I think that it's really important,
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especially in our community with the book to,
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to make sure that we are understanding or that I'm trying to
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help others. Other parents understand that there's a way,
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a different way that we can discipline our Children and still have
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that respect that we want our Children to have towards us.
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It's,, it's crazy how like the previous generation and
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maybe still some people reinforce the,
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you're a man, you shouldn't be crying.
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Right. Exactly. Yes.
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Yes. Or toughen up or toughen up.
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I was telling my son when we went to,
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he went to a summer camp,
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he had never gone and he cried there,
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they called me. And later in the day when I saw
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my son, I was like,
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how, how was summer camp?
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It was great. And I thought he's not telling me that
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he was crying a lot.
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Why, why is he hiding this from me?
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So I told him,
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you know, what?
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Only the brave kids cry?
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Because if you're brave,
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you're comfortable with your emotions and you're like gonna let them out
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Not like if you're throwing a tantrum.
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And that same day,
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a friend of mine was really struggling herself and she felt ashamed
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of the struggle she was going through.
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And I thought I'm gonna tell her the same thing.
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I told my son and I told her friend,
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you know, only the brave ones cry and let her out
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and share what they're going through.
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And then the next day,
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my son told me,
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Mama, I may cry today.
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But you know what?
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Only the brave kids,
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that's great that you are telling him that,
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right? Because it helps him help us feel stronger and he
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can walk into camp or school more confident and say,
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you know what I'm sensitive and that's ok.
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I love this. And can you share a personal story from
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your book that highlights a key lesson or a strategy for parenting
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of a highly sensitive child?
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So one of the personal stories is when Thomas finds out that
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vacation is over and school is going to start in a few
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days and you see in his face,
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he tears up, you could see the anxiety building,
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the nervousness building and the key lesson there is empathy,
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kindness, right? Mama shows him kindness,
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empathy and is caring,
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right? And she she understands because she is highly sensitive,
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she understands. So she tells me,
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you know, why don't we work through this,
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through breathing, right?
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And I always go back to breathing exercises,
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but they take that moment to breathe and that's exactly what happened
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with our son. You know,
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every year is a challenge for us when he's transitioning to school
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and when I was a child,
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it was also a struggle for me,
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but I didn't have the support.
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But now what we do is we work through those emotions before
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school starts. So that part of the story is a personal
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one that I have experienced with my own son.
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So you basically wrote the book for yourself and for your son
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And then I did.
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And what's really amazing is that he knows that the book is
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inspired by him, right?
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And inspired by his sensitivity.
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And there are actually pictures in the book that my illustrator who's
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amazing was able to put in the book,
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you know, so some of his paintings,
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some of his drawings are in the book.
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So when he's Tomas loves art.
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So when he's in the art class,
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the pictures that are on,
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there are hanging on and there's,
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I think there was a robot that's so he drew that.
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So he is so excited about the book because he knows that
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in part, you know,
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he inspired that book.
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I love that. I think my son would love it if
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I wrote a book about him.
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OK, let's talk about advice for professional Latinas.
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What advice can you give a professional Latina mother raising a highly
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sensitive child? First of all,
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be gentle, be kind to yourself,
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be forgiving. We are juggling so much in our lives that
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you know, it's OK if we mess up,
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you know, we always have to remember that that and we
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are not the only ones that are going through this.
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We also have to try and what I've done is learn
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everything that I can about the trait,
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a highly sensitive trait.
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So the book that you recommend is highly sensitive,
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highly sensitive child, the highly sensitive person.
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And if you think that you are highly sensitive,
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the highly sensitive parent is another book as well.
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Learn everything that you can about the traits so that you are
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better prepared to handle whatever comes along because it's,
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it's an emotional roller coaster sometimes and not everything is bad.
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You know, I'm not,
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I don't want to say that everything is negative when it comes
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to raising a highly sensitive child.
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So what is the positive side?
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They're extremely creative. They are so smart,
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funny, witty, you know,
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again, they can feel other people's energy as well.
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So that helps them be more empathetic and understanding.
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So my son and I really get each other because we're both
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highly sensitive and we have a special bond because of that.
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So he at times would just come up to me and say
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I love you mama because he also knows what I'm trying to
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do for him, right?
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So as he gets older,
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I'm trying to implement these tools and strategies now.
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So that as he gets older,
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he can take those tools because situations are just going to get
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harder, right? Emotions are just going to first day at
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college as teenagers as adults.
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So he can take those tools and start applying them also share
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with others, right?
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And almost like pay it forward.
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Yeah, we spoke about how there are certain characteristics of our
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culture that probably create a more hostile environment for a highly sensitive
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child. Are there things in our culture that create actually a
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more like a nicer environment for a highly sensitive child?
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I think what we do at home is obviously everyone in the
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household has to be on the same page.
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And I think growing up it wasn't like that.
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I think everyone in our household now,
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what we've done is we've had conversations about understanding the trait and
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understanding the sensitivities to certain things.
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And it's an adjustment obviously,
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but everyone understands and not that the child is getting special treatment
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or getting away with bad behavior,
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but everyone understands what can lead to a meltdown.
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Right? So everyone's on the same page.
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So you've kind of thought the basics for grandparents,
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uncles, aunts. And that's another important thing.
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Everyone in the family needs to know because Abuela may have again
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going back to our culture,
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may think that the child is bratty or disrespectful if the child
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doesn't want to say hi or the child doesn't want to hug
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Right. So we have to,
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to give them their space.
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So we have to talk to them about that.
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So you've had those conversations we've had and now I think with
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the book coming out and all of the conversations that I've had
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now on this podcast,
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I think they get it a little bit more.
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They start to understand it a little bit more and my mom
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has read the book and she's like,
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wow, I love it.
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And now I understand Nico's temperament.
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Right? And so it's not called Tomas.
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No, my son's name is Nicolas,
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but the name Tomas,
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what I, what I found out means Twin.
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I had no idea.
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Ah, so Twin,
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so, so Tomas works.
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But no, sorry,
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my son's name is Nicolas.
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Ok. So I feel like our audience and your audience,
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it's gonna, it's gonna need a very short list for how
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to explain to extended family,
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how to engage with a highly sensitive child.
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Like these are the 10 things that you may experience with a
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highly sensitive child. And this is how you should act just
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like a cheat, cheat so people can use it if you
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create it. We're happy to help.
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Definitely, I can definitely do that.
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I'm all for a cheat sheet.
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I'm like, I read all these books and I'm just hoping
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that at the end of the book,
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there's like, of course,
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well, at the end of the book I do,
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there is an interactive guide with questions that you can ask your
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child tips that Tomas strategies that Tomas uses tips for caregivers
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when the Children are returning from school.
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Because a lot of times when they come back from school,
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we're bombarding them with questions.
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How was your day?
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What did you do?
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Who did you talk to?
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What did you eat?
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And we can't approach a highly sensitive child like that.
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I don't think any child likes that,
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but specially with a highly sensitive child.
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So I include that the resources.
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So the, the two books,
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the names of the two books are there.
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And just a note for caregivers,
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I'm gonna read it and I don't know if there's anything that
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I didn't ask you that you would like to say,
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I think raising our Children in general,
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we have to let go of what we thought was the way
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to parent. I'm talking about our Latino culture,
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right? We have to be,
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again, I keep saying,
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gentle, gentle parenting sometimes can be thought of as you know
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you let the child get away,
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right? But that's not what it is comes from a place
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of love, a place of caring understanding,
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creating a safe space for your Children to be able to communicate
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with you, right?
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And feel like every emotion is honored and validated.
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And so they never feel like they,
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they're never supported. There's a phrase I wish I had
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the exact phrase that I read,
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but I'm gonna just paraphrase it that said we can be the
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generation that breaks a cycle of very toxic parenting.
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You know, like we have all the tools we understand.
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I mean, unfortunately or not either fortunately or unfortunately through
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data and through a really analysis of what works and what makes
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be adults. I think we can be better parents to our
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kids. So we break that cycle of changing the narrative,
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right? And also just stay consistent even on the days when
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you think it's not working,
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even on the days where you just want to give up,
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I think, you know,
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that applies to anything in life,
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right? Just staying consistent because we've been consistent with implementing the
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tools, right? And from two years old,
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up until now, seven,
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the progress has been amazing,
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right? And so you started doing this at two years old
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three years old,
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right? Starting to again,
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research what was happening and learning the tools and again being consistent
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And at first it was just me doing it.
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But then my husband started understanding,
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right? And then he started implementing the tools now.
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So that's really important too that if you have a family,
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right, everyone's on the same page and they are both working
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towards improving just their chances of becoming more resilient in life,
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right? I love it.
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Well, that's it.
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This was a podcast,
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a La Latina.